Internal energy pressure dependence

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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the calculation of enthalpy for refrigerant 134a, specifically addressing discrepancies in the enthalpy-pressure diagram compared to theoretical expectations. The user, Mike, utilizes data from a specific PDF to develop an algorithm that calculates volume based on pressure and temperature but finds inconsistencies in enthalpy values. The key takeaway is the clarification that specific internal energy (u) is indeed a function of pressure, which influences the total enthalpy calculation, as described by the equation: $$\left(\frac{\partial h}{\partial P}\right)_T=v-T\left(\frac{\partial v}{\partial T}\right)_P$$.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of thermodynamic properties, specifically enthalpy and specific volume.
  • Familiarity with refrigerant properties, particularly HFC-134a.
  • Knowledge of thermodynamic equations and their applications.
  • Basic programming skills for implementing algorithms in thermodynamic calculations.
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the thermodynamic properties of refrigerants, focusing on HFC-134a.
  • Learn about the derivation and application of the equation $$\left(\frac{\partial h}{\partial P}\right)_T=v-T\left(\frac{\partial v}{\partial T}\right)_P$$.
  • Implement and test the algorithm for calculating enthalpy in different states of refrigerants.
  • Explore graphical representation techniques for enthalpy-pressure diagrams in programming environments.
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This discussion is beneficial for thermodynamics students, engineers working with refrigeration systems, and software developers creating applications for thermodynamic analysis.

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Hello Physics Forums!

I am currently writing a computer program that displays an enthalpy-pressure diagram for the refrigerant 134a. I am using the data and relation between specific volume, pressure and temperature found in http://eng.sut.ac.th/me/2014/document/LabMechanical1/HFC-134a_SI.pdf. My algorithm is able to calculate the correct volume given a pressure and temperature, however the total enthalpy calculation differs from the diagram found in the above paper.

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In particular, in the liquid state, my temperature curves are not that vertical but fall to the right as pressure increases. According to my understanding of specific enthalpy it is defined as h=u+pv where u is a function of only temperature. Now to my question. If the above is true, how can the lines in the diagram be almost vertical when the specific volume is close to constant and the pressure increases by a factor of 10(pv should increase x10). May u be dependent on pressure, compensate for the increasing pv and yield a constant enthalpy? What am I missing?

Thanks a lot
Mike
 
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u is a function of pressure. The effect of pressure on h is given by:

$$\left(\frac{\partial h}{\partial P}\right)_T=v-T\left(\frac{\partial v}{\partial T}\right)_P$$
 
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Chestermiller said:
u is a function of pressure. The effect of pressure on h is given by:

$$\left(\frac{\partial h}{\partial P}\right)_T=v-T\left(\frac{\partial v}{\partial T}\right)_P$$
Alright, nice to have that confirmed! I'll start to implement it.

Thank you Chestermiller:)
 

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