International math and physics high school books

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the search for high school physics and math textbooks that align with an international curriculum, covering grades 9 to 12. Participants explore various book recommendations and the nature of the curriculum used in different countries.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express uncertainty about what constitutes "the international curriculum" and seek clarification on its definition.
  • One participant suggests that high school textbooks are often inadequate and recommends using college-level physics books for a more comprehensive understanding.
  • Multiple participants mention specific textbooks, such as Halliday and Resnick, as being closely aligned with international physics education.
  • Another participant lists additional recommended texts, including works by Fishbane, Serway, and Wolfson, while noting that some may not fully cover the syllabus.
  • Concerns are raised about the quality and completeness of high school physics curricula compared to university-level materials.
  • Participants discuss the potential need for calculus knowledge when engaging with certain recommended texts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on what defines the international curriculum or whether a universally applicable curriculum exists. There are multiple competing views on the adequacy of high school textbooks versus college-level materials.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in high school curricula and the varying quality of textbooks, but do not resolve these issues or provide definitive answers regarding the existence of an all-encompassing physics curriculum.

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I want to learn high school physics and math but using the international curriculum I want to see everything taught at high school in those books from grade 9 to 12 any suggestion ?
 
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What is "the international curriculum"?
 
micromass said:
What is "the international curriculum"?
I want to know . I mean by this the curriculum used in physics in all countries the best curriculum
 
Peter25samaha said:
I want to know . I mean by this the curriculum used in physics in all countries the best curriculum

Sorry, you need to be a lot more detailed if you want to get sensible answers.
 
Well, usually school books are not that good. It's much more valuable to use freshmen physics books. There the curriculum is really international, which is natural since physics is an international endeavor anyway. What they do to physics (and even worse to math) at high school usually makes me very sad, if not depressive :-(.
 
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micromass said:
Sorry, you need to be a lot more detailed if you want to get sensible answers.

I can read OP's questions two ways:
1. Is there an 'international' curriculum that applies to almost all countries and not US specific? If so, are there books that follow this curriculum?

2. is there an 'international' curriculum for Physics that is followed in an international school (say, a school based in US that caters to international students)? If so, are there books that follow this curriculum?

I am not sure what he reason is for asking the question(s) and have no idea whether there is an 'all encompassing' physics curriculum or if there are books for it.
 
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smodak said:
I can read OP's questions two ways:
1. Is there an 'international' curriculum that applies to almost all countries and not US specific? If so, are there books that follow this curriculum?

2. is there an 'international' curriculum for Physics that is followed in an international school (say, a school based in US that caters to international students)? If so, are there books that follow this curriculum?

I am not sure what he reason is for asking the question(s) and have no idea whether there is an 'all encompassing' physics curriculum or if there are books for it.
yes that is my question I want to know the books that contain all high school physics ALL
 
Peter25samaha said:
yes that is my question I want to know the books that contain all high school physics ALL

Halliday and Resnick
 
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Another Book that I really like (although it may not cover the syllabus fully)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0300192207/?tag=pfamazon01-20

The second volume is not released yet but will be soon.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0300212364/?tag=pfamazon01-20

These are the lectures that go with the books.
http://oyc.yale.edu/physics/phys-200
http://oyc.yale.edu/physics/phys-201

These are the books that Shankar suggests with the course (his own books are younger than the courses)

1. Fishbane, Paul M., Stephen Gasiorowicz, and Stephen T. Thornton. 2005. Physics for Scientists and Engineers with Modern Physics, 3rd Edition. Englewood Cliffs, N.J.: Prentice-Hall.

2. Serway, Raymond A., and John W. Jewett, Jr. 2008. Physics for Scientists and Engineers, 7th Edition, Part II. Belmont, CA: Thomson Brooks/Cole.

3. Wolfson, Richard and Jay Pasachoff. 1998. Physics with Modern Physics for Scientists and Engineers, 3d ed. Reading, MA: Addison Wesley Publishing Company.

4. Recommended math supplement: Shankar, Ramamurti. 2003. Basic Training in Mathematics: A Fitness Program for Science Students. New York: Springer Publishing Company.
 
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I like Alonso and Finn Fundamentals of Physics 3 volume set. It can get pricey. So only get these if you have the money.

Like Micromass suggested, Halliday and Resnick is good.

If you do go purchase Alonso and Finn (the original not the dumbed down reprint), then supplement it with Halliday.
Make sure you know basic calculus.
 

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