Interpolate value in velocity vs time table

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The discussion revolves around interpolating the velocity of a 4kg mass at a specific time (3.8 seconds) based on a provided table of velocities over a 5-second interval. Participants explore various methods of interpolation and the nature of the data, noting that the relationship may not be linear.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss averaging velocities at nearby time points and consider the increase in velocity over specific intervals. Some explore the idea of modeling the data with exponential functions, while others suggest plotting the data for better visualization. There are inquiries about alternative interpolation methods beyond linear fitting.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their reasoning and calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding different interpolation methods, and there is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem. Multiple interpretations of how to approach the interpolation are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the expected answer is 27.1 m/s, which raises questions about the methods used to arrive at that value. There is also mention of the limitations of hand-drawn graphs in determining precise values.

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Homework Statement


Table gives the rectilinear motion of a 4kg mass over a 5 s time interval.
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When the time was 3.8 seconds, the velocity of the mass was approximately what

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I first just tried to find the average of the velocities at 3.5 and 4.0 seconds, so (23+30)/2 = 26.5 m/s.
But that was wrong as the answer should be 27.1 m/s.

Then, I also saw that it wasn't linear, so I tried modeling the data to an exponential function of form A= Pe^(rt).
And tried plugging in two points to find the constants and then plugged in 3.8 for t, but that didn't really work and gave me different values depending on which two initial points I used.

How should this problem be done?
 
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rasen58 said:
I first just tried to find the average of the velocities at 3.5 and 4.0 seconds, so (23+30)/2 = 26.5 m/s.
That gives you an approximation of the velocity at 3.75 s.

From the table, how much does the velocity increase in the 0.5 s between 3.5 s and 4.0 s? So approximately how much does it increase in the 0.3 s between 3.5 s and 3.8s?
 
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MrAnchovy said:
That gives you an approximation of the velocity at 3.75 s.

From the table, how much does the velocity increase in the 0.5 s between 3.5 s and 4.0 s? So approximately how much does it increase in the 0.3 s between 3.5 s and 3.8s?
Oh, I see now.
So the velocity increased by 7 m/s over .5 s. So to find how much it increased every 0.1 s, I would do 7/5 = 1.4 m/s.
To find the v at 3.8, that is .3 s past 3.5 so 23 + 3 * 1.4 = 27.2 m/s, which is pretty much the answer.
Thanks!
 
Hmmm, if the answer they are looking for is 27.1 m/s I think they may be expecting you to plot the points on graph paper and sketch a curve fitting them.
 
But if you're sketching it by hand, then you probably wouldn't know if it's exactly 27.1
 
Try it, I think you'll find that it is closer to 27.1 than 27.0 or 27.2.
 
rasen58, have you covered any other interpolation methods besides a linear fit? There are several methods of tabular interpolation that effectively take into account the shape of the curve around the point of interest by considering surrounding data points.

If you are interested you might do a bit of research on "Bessel's interpolation formula" and "LaGrange's interpolation formula". Both are fairly straightforward to apply.
 
gneill said:
rasen58, have you covered any other interpolation methods besides a linear fit? There are several methods of tabular interpolation that effectively take into account the shape of the curve around the point of interest by considering surrounding data points.

If you are interested you might do a bit of research on "Bessel's interpolation formula" and "LaGrange's interpolation formula". Both are fairly straightforward to apply.
Thanks I'll look into it.
 

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