Intra-atomic gravity causes magnetism?

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The discussion centers on the concept of "internal gravity" as a cause of electron spin and magnetism, as mentioned in Stephen Herman's book. Participants question the validity of this claim and seek clarification on how electron spins create magnetic flux. They discuss magnetic domains formed by paired electron spins in materials like iron, nickel, and cobalt, and how these domains relate to visual representations of magnetic fields. The complexity of quantum magnetism is highlighted, noting that the orientation of spins is influenced by neighboring spins, debunking the idea of "intra-atomic gravity" as a factor. The conversation emphasizes the need for accurate scientific explanations in educational materials.
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I read in Stephen Herman's Electrical Studies for Trades: 4th Edition that 'internal gravity' causes electrons to spin on their axes, resulting in magnetism. How do electrons' spins result in flux?
 
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Please cite the Page number, so that someone can write to the author and remove that incorrect phrase "internal gravity".

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
Please cite the Page number, so that someone can write to the author and remove that incorrect phrase "internal gravity".

Zz.
Its under the second headline on page 86.
 
How would magnetic domains result in flux lines?
 
treehouse said:
How would magnetic domains result in flux lines?

Are you referring to the magnetic domains in something like a magnet?
 
The book I cited says that when the atoms of iron, nickel and cobalt combine their electrons of the same spins pair up, creating magnetic domains. It also says that you can call magnetic domains 'magnetic molecules'.
 
treehouse said:
The book I cited says that when the atoms of iron, nickel and cobalt combine their electrons of the same spins pair up, creating magnetic domains. It also says that you can call magnetic domains 'magnetic molecules'.

Ah ok. Well, I think flux lines are simply visual representations of the magnetic field from these molecules.
 
Now this is eerie. I am writing a book and need a physicist to talk with for research purposes, and this is exactly one of the topics I need info about.
Maybe I should just read through all the forums and I might find all my answers..lol
 
chadthree6ty said:
Now this is eerie. I am writing a book and need a physicist to talk with for research purposes, and this is exactly one of the topics I need info about.
Maybe I should just read through all the forums and I might find all my answers..lol

Use the search feature!
 
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Drakkith said:
Ah ok. Well, I think flux lines are simply visual representations of the magnetic field from these molecules.

I'm wondering if there are some rules by which particular arrangements of spins result in flux fields of particular shapes.
 
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treehouse said:
I'm wondering if there are some rules by which particular arrangements of spins result in flux fields of particular shapes.

Unfortunately, the physics of quantum magnetism isn't that easy. It is a many-body phenomenon. The orientation of spin of one atom is governed by the orientation and location of all the other spins in close vicinity to it (nearest neighbor, next-nearest neighbor, next-next-nearest neighbor, etc.). That is why sometime you can an ferromagnetic material, an antiferromagnetic material, etc.. etc.

We do know that it isn't due to "intra-atomic gravity".

Zz.
 
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