Introduction to cartesian tensors

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The discussion revolves around a problem from a chapter on Cartesian tensors, specifically focusing on the computation of a vector expression involving variables x1, x2, and x3. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the requirements of the exercise.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the expression provided, questioning whether it represents a vector or a scalar. There is an attempt to clarify the meaning of the subscript "i" in the context of the problem.

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The conversation includes attempts to clarify the notation used in the exercise, with some participants providing insights into the meaning of the symbols. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's confusion, and guidance is offered regarding the interpretation of derivatives in the context of the problem.

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Participants note that the original poster is new to the subject and is working from a textbook that may not clearly explain the notation. There is mention of additional exercises that may require similar understanding.

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Homework Statement



This exercice is in a Chapter named Introduction to Cartesian tensors. The following is the original question of the exercise:

Homework Equations



Compute the vector: (x1^2 + 2x1*x2^2 + 3x2^2*x3), i

The Attempt at a Solution



Plz help me, i don't understand what is the requirement ^^. Thanks very much!
 
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hi progiangbk! welcome to pf! :smile:

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progiangbk said:

Homework Statement



This exercice is in a Chapter named Introduction to Cartesian tensors. The following is the original question of the exercise:

Homework Equations



Compute the vector: (x1^2 + 2x1*x2^2 + 3x2^2*x3), i

The Attempt at a Solution



Plz help me, i don't understand what is the requirement ^^. Thanks very much!

do you mean x12 + 2x1*x22 + 3x22*x3 ?

but that's not a vector, it's a scalar :confused:

have you missed something out?​
 
No, please see the expression again, there is a bracket pair and i symbol at the end: (x1^2 + 2x1*x2^2 + 3x2^2*x3), i

I have uploaded the picture of the exercise 16: http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/4437/66167045.png

In the same occasion, if you know the meaning of some symbols and eq to calculate the exercise 17 and 18 (in red rectangular), pls help me. Thanks !
 
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hi progiangbk! :smile:

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ohh, the "i" is a subscript

why didn't you say so? :redface:

you mean (x12 + 2x1*x22 + 3x22*x3)i ?

,i means ∂/∂xi

,ij means ∂2/∂xi∂xj

(so eg A,i means the vector whose ith component is ∂A/∂xi)
 
Mod note: moving this thread to Calculus & Beyond.
 
Hi tiny-tim,

Thanks for your help.

Because I have just started to learned this subject and the author of the book has written like that so I copy original version only :P please see the picture! i have understood something after reading your answer but if you can do it completely, i can understand more, because I have many more exercise like that, so pls help ^

∂2/∂xi∂xj mean d2/dx1dx2 right?

thanks
 
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Sorry, i have not been accustomed to this site
 
hi progiangbk! :smile:

(just got up :zzz:)
progiangbk said:
∂2/∂xi∂xj mean d2/dx1dx2 right?

well, it only means that if i = 1 and j = 2

2/∂xi∂xj is a general formula, for any values of i and j (= 1 2 or 3, possibly the same) :wink:

(this may help … http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_notation )
 
Thanks very much, i have submitted my HW he!
 

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