Investigation of binary numbers

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties of binary numbers, particularly in relation to scalar values and their implications for pattern recognition algorithms and neural networks. Participants explore the conceptual differences between counting and measuring in binary representation, as well as the potential for unconventional interpretations of these concepts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that within standard mathematics, a scalar has magnitude but no direction, while proposing that outside this framework, scalars can have direction when treated as measurements rather than counts.
  • Another participant questions the interpretation of binary numbers, asking for clarification on how the phrase "1st half of the 2nd half of the 1st half of the 2nd half" is derived from the binary representation 1010.
  • Some participants express confusion about the terminology used, emphasizing the need for clear definitions of terms like "measurement" and "direction of a scalar."
  • A participant describes their exploration of Morton Location Codes and how they relate to binary representation, attempting to differentiate between counting and measuring in binary systems.
  • There is a correction regarding a specific binary example, changing the reference from 1010 to 1001 in a discussion about cardinality and set operations.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the novelty of the ideas presented, suggesting that the concepts may not be as "outside the box" as claimed.
  • Another participant reflects on the complexity of the topic, indicating a desire for references that could help them articulate their ideas more clearly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement, with some expressing confusion and others seeking clarification on the concepts discussed. There is no clear consensus on the interpretations or implications of the ideas presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the need for precise definitions and clarity in discussing unconventional interpretations of binary numbers and scalars. There are unresolved questions about the validity and implications of the proposed methods.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring the intersection of binary mathematics, pattern recognition, and neural network design, particularly in unconventional or theoretical contexts.

  • #31
At a large university the intro physics and math classes are so large they have no way of knowing who is or is not registered for the class. Go in sit down and listen.
 
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  • #32
Roger that ;-) <evil grin>
getting lost in the crowd dictates silence on my part ;-)
except for my appearance, I can't hide butt ugly and old.

facinating... i mean... REALLY. mathematics is not just numbers, it's spaces, places, values, and time. Like building something from nothing...

Like watching an analog circut and it's sub circuts in slooooow motion. the frequency and width of the timing in each sub circuit appears different, but still relative. Engineering Calculus is my new thing... and this BDD thing I found yesterday? holy smokes. why reinvent the wheel. go to the "store" and buy one. duh

;-)

Thanks again.
 
  • #33
" butt ugly and old"? That describes a lot of us!
 
  • #34
LOL, both, and a bit... obtuse?

I just read an interesting post that... fits that long garbled journey above to find out the word radix... gah!... There's Zapper ... AGAIN. ok, two strikes, I'd better not make a 3rd.
I know what he meant, you guys TRIED to warn me. doh te doh!

To ALL FNGs (friggin new guys), READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE you OPEN your MOUTH:
https://www.physicsforums.com/blog.php?b=3588

I didn't get it... I get it... Thanks for allowing me my "lumps" and helping me learn that... the "a priori" thing I do, is anoying, is illogical, and invalidates the question. sigh, so the references I used to do in formal communications... had a purpose other than... "work thyself to death student of mine"

I was so sure speed to my goal was more important than accuracy. FRAP!
Fast, Cheap, or Accurate, pick any two! And I picked the wrong two.

After this, and reading some posts on "asking questions"... I get it. They aren't censors, they are tired of wondering what the heck we are talking about.

I'm the FNG! You other FNGs don't cry if you get your feelings hurt.
 
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