Iref extraction in active power filters using active filters

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The discussion centers on the extraction of the Iref waveform in active power filters, highlighting the complexity of current algorithms like FFT and DFT used in frequency and time domains. There is curiosity about the potential for using op-amp active filters, such as notch filters, to isolate the fundamental frequency for Iref extraction. The conversation notes that many existing filters do not account for Iref, and emphasizes the importance of understanding harmonic signatures when sizing filters, especially for systems like 6 pulse rectifiers. While analog solutions are possible, they are often more costly and difficult to configure compared to digital approaches, which have become the standard due to their efficiency and lower costs. The transition from analog to digital in power systems is illustrated by a case study involving a large inverter system that faced challenges with waveform data collection in its original analog setup.
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i was doing a research on active power filters and i read about Iref ( the cancelation waveform) extraction algorithm, and they are using complicated algorithms like FFT or DFT in frequency domain or the park transform and clark transform in time domain, i was wondering, why isn't there any technique using opamp active filters to extract the Iref? maybe a notch filter attenuating only the fundamental frequency?
 
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I expect that every approach to filtering ever imagined has been tried. There are also many filters designed without any consideration of Iref. That's just one way to describe it.
 
anorlunda said:
There are also many filters designed without any consideration of Iref. That's just one way to describe it.
are those active power filters?
 
Since you frequently have a DSP there just to manage PWM for the filter, you want to digitize and analyze the current waveform in a way the processor can manage it, so you typically have this tool at your disposal. Also - the primary metric for power quality is often the THD - and looked at in the frequency domain - so you are correcting the same thing you are measuring.

Then when sizing the filter - you want to know what the primary causes are; e.g. a 6 pulse rectifier has a particular harmonic signature, and when choosing the filter you take that into consideration.

It is possible to do this all in analog, but today that is more expensive and much harder to configure. I have a client that had a 2MW inverter for solar, wind and energy storage - the original design was analog, and they only designed this out and went to digital about 4 years ago. ( Analog controller ~$1500, digital $90 ). When they had a problem, I had asked for some waveform data - impossible to add that feature in their analog set up without adding hardware.
 
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