Is always a Lagrangian L=T-V ?

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The discussion centers on whether the Lagrangian can always be expressed as L = T - V, noting that while this is generally true, there are significant exceptions. In classical mechanics, the Hamiltonian can represent gravitational energy, but it requires a time-independent potential for conservation. The Einstein-Hilbert Lagrangian introduces complexities with the metric determinant and Ricci scalar, indicating that not all systems conform to the simple T - V formulation. Additionally, in the case of a charged particle in a magnetic field, the Lagrangian does not follow the T - V structure, yet the Hamiltonian still corresponds to the particle's energy. Overall, the relationship between Lagrangian and Hamiltonian forms is nuanced and context-dependent.
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That's my question..although in more general cases L=T-V

H=T+V however there're several important exceptions..for example:

a) Classically (Non relativisitc) the Gravitational "Energy" (=Hamiltonian for a time-independent Potential) is:

H=(1/2)\int_{V}\rho (\gra \phi)^{2}

b) Einstein-HIlbert Lagrangian L=\sqrt (-g) R -g is the

determinant of the metric and R is Ricci scalar.

Is there always a kind of "transform" so you can always split te Lagrangian into a Kinetic and a potential terms...:confused: :confused:
 
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First of all, it is not sufficient that the hamiltonian have a time-independent potential for it to equal the energy. That's only for the hamiltonian to be conserved in time (actually, it's that dH/dt = \partial_t L that you need). Also, you might want to look up the situation of a charged particle in the magnetic field. the lagrangian is decidedly NOT T - V, but the hamiltonian does equal thte energy of the charged particle (does not include the energy of the field).
 
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