Is Asking a Woman Out Only for the Bold?

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The discussion revolves around tips for someone inexperienced in asking women out, with various perspectives shared on the topic. Key points include the importance of reading signals from women, such as smiles or eye contact, to gauge interest. Participants emphasize that if a woman shows no signs of attraction, it's best to move on. There is a consensus that asking someone out should be straightforward, often starting with a simple greeting and casual conversation. The idea of "playing games" in dating is criticized, suggesting that being direct is more effective. Participants also highlight the importance of confidence and being oneself, rather than overthinking interactions. The conversation touches on the challenges of navigating dating dynamics, particularly for those who may feel insecure or inexperienced. Overall, the thread underscores the need for authenticity and the understanding that not every attempt will lead to success, encouraging a light-hearted approach to dating.
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Any tips for someone who never tried it before (when he was sane)?
I guess asking a woman out should be for the insaners.
 
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Offer $20 and haggle from there.
 
Not sure I understand just what you're asking...could you clarify, please?
 
Here's a good instructional video that helps you progress from a 'training woman' to a real woman in easy to follow steps: The search for true love begins outside the box


Edit: By the way, as hot as Bianca is, you can just forget it. She's engaged to this guy and it looks about as real as real can get.
 
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start with "hello"
 
It depends on the age group you are asking. If it's high school and she doesn't have a BF then you just have to ask. It's that simple. If it's older women then you have to start with the games. OooOO...how I hate having to play the game.
 
MathematicalPhysicist said:
Any tips for someone who never tried it before (when he was sane)?
I guess asking a woman out should be for the insaners.
A good way to tell if the girl may be interested is if she looks at you and then maybe smiles and looks away quickly, hopefully she'll look back at you again to see if you're still looking.

If this happens, she's probably interested.

There is never any guarantee and the thing is to ask and not be devastated if she says no. Not everyone will say yes.

Basically, don't ask a girl that doesn't smile at you or act nice to you. If she gives you no sign of interest, move along, she's not interested.

Also, don't be duped by a girl that's playing with you. If she goes after jerk types, then suddenly shows an interest in you, be careful, she might be trying to use you.
 
And you gone to PHYSICSforums.com for advice?

You really are hopeless, my friend.
 
It makes absolute sense. People that think similarly will be more likely to understand his situation.
 
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I'm assuming the guy scored since he never came back.
 
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Wax said:
I'm assuming the guy scored since he never came back.
Or we scared him off. I deleted a ton of off topic posts. :frown:
 
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MathematicalPhysicist said:
Any tips for someone who never tried it before (when he was sane)?
I guess asking a woman out should be for the insaners.

What is "it"? Is "it" women? Sex? Relationships? Low-premium health insurance? To be honest I don't know if I've every actually "asked a girl out". I've had my share of relationships but looking back I don't think there was a moment where I was like "Hey, Peggy Sue. You're mighty keen, would you like to accompany me tomorrow to the theatre?". It just sort of happens.
 
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I knew my current boyfriend for three years. We were just friends, although he was dropping hints that he might be interested in more.

I finally got tired of beating around the bush and sent him some Victoria's Secrets style, classy pics. Heck I have bathing suit pictures that reveal more. Deal sealed.
 
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Evo said:
I knew my current boyfriend for three years. We were just friends, although he was dropping hints that he might be interested in more.

I finally got tired of beating around the bush and sent him some Victoria's Secrets style, classy pics. Heck I have bathing suit pictures that reveal more. Deal sealed.

Post some pictures! :biggrin:
 
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Evo said:
I knew my current boyfriend for three years. We were just friends, although he was dropping hints that he might be interested in more.

I finally got tired of beating around the bush and sent him some Victoria's Secrets style, classy pics. Heck I have bathing suit pictures that reveal more. Deal sealed.

Nothing helps an advance like a visual aid.
 
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Haha.. this is like "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock" by T.S. Eliot. I think you missing the big picture. You should strive to stay single as long as possible! Try to avoid women and their sinking-hole principle of a commitment and relationship. If you are young (as in if you were old you won't be asking these questions) then you should enjoy life, not deal with headaches of a relationship. If you want a casual "thing" then start it off as a friendship, maybe you'll like the girl. Window shopping is the best approach. Don't try to understand women and then try to push their "buttons", instead be yourself and ignore all the irrational and complex characteristics of their psyche. Be above it! Women are not that special for you to devote a dissertation over trying to understand them.
 
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Evo said:
I knew my current boyfriend for three years. We were just friends, although he was dropping hints that he might be interested in more.

I finally got tired of beating around the bush and sent him some Victoria's Secrets style, classy pics. Heck I have bathing suit pictures that reveal more. Deal sealed.

I knew that girl looked similar to you on that website plastered with peoples pictures from private emails :devil:
 
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cronxeh said:
Haha.. this is like "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock" by T.S. Eliot. I think you missing the big picture. You should strive to stay single as long as possible! Try to avoid women and their sinking-hole principle of a commitment and relationship. If you are young (as in if you were old you won't be asking these questions) then you should enjoy life, not deal with headaches of a relationship. If you want a casual "thing" then start it off as a friendship, maybe you'll like the girl. Window shopping is the best approach. Don't try to understand women and then try to push their "buttons", instead be yourself and ignore all the irrational and complex characteristics of their psyche. Be above it! Women are not that special for you to devote a dissertation over trying to understand them.

Pssh. Women, with that crazy stuff they do. (sarcasm). Do you really find the opposite sex that mysterious?
 
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Basically, just talk to her without expecting anything. Get in touch with your alpha-male flirting skillz.

Try not to be her "friend". Or you might end up one of those guys that get to hear all the stories about boyfriend problems from the girl you like and wonder why she isn't going for you. LOL, that's a bad place to be.
 
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drankin said:
Basically, just talk to her without expecting anything. Get in touch with your alpha-male flirting skillz.

Try not to be her "friend". Or you might end up one of those guys that get to hear all the stories about boyfriend problems from the girl you like and wonder why she isn't going for you. LOL, that's a bad place to be.

ah, yes, the "friend zone". basically, don't be her girlfriend.
 
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drankin said:
Try not to be her "friend". Or you might end up one of those guys that get to hear all the stories about boyfriend problems from the girl you like and wonder why she isn't going for you. LOL, that's a bad place to be.

Yes because you obviously have a chance with her considering she has a boyfriend already.

And what the heck is this thread about anyhow. How to start with women? Listen, I read a book saying that women are from Venus. Alright so here's what you get her: thick layers of sulfuric acid, viscous surface rock, and coronae, which seem to be collapsed domes over large magma chambers.
 
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Getting started is easy. It's quitting that's hard. :-p
 
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MathematicalPhysicist said:
Any tips for someone who never tried it before (when he was sane)?
I guess asking a woman out should be for the insaners.

If you're asking this question then I'm guessing you have someone in mind that you would like to ask out. So spill your guts and tell us about her. Then you can get some tailored advice. What works with one woman may be insulting to another. What do you like about her? Where do you know her from? Has she indicated in any way that she might like you?
 
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Evo said:
I knew my current boyfriend for three years. We were just friends, although he was dropping hints that he might be interested in more.

I finally got tired of beating around the bush and sent him some Victoria's Secrets style, classy pics. Heck I have bathing suit pictures that reveal more. Deal sealed.

Haha, the direct approach. I love it!:smile:

It's always been a pet peeve of mine that women are often hesitant to make the first move. Depending on her preference in partners it is sometimes necessary. It's hard to tell for sure, but it seems to me that more men nowadays need a bonk on the head with the proverbial sledgehammer to get their attention. The rules for relationships, whatever those are, aren't the same as they used to be. The changes cause some confusion, especially on the approach. What's your opinion?
 
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Proton Soup said:
start with "hello"
I concur. Follow it up with casual conversation. If there is mutual interest, then invite the woman of interest to lunch or coffee, or perhaps dinner.
 
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Astronuc said:
I concur. Follow it up with casual conversation. If there is mutual interest, then invite the woman of interest to lunch or coffee, or perhaps dinner.
Why not breakfast at his place?
 
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Huckleberry said:
Why not breakfast at his place?
Why not breakfast at her place?:biggrin:
 
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bp_psy said:
Why not breakfast at her place?:biggrin:

Yes, I agree. This is a first date after all, so I wouldn't be forking out extravagant amounts of money for things like breakfast until you've gotten to know her a little better and can determine whether she's worth the cost and effort. :smile:
 
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BobG said:
Yes, I agree. This is a first date after all, so I wouldn't be forking out extravagant amounts of money for things like breakfast until you've gotten to know her a little better and can determine whether she's worth the cost and effort. :smile:

McDonalds have a new $1 for a McMuffen deal.
 
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whitay said:
McDonalds have a new $1 for a McMuffen deal.

That's klassy.
 
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lisab said:
That's klassy.

I know.

Everyone has said that you should ask her to coffee or breakfast or something. But if she is interested then she might have something in mind. Leave the question opened ended in some sense like say "Would you like to go to coffee or something sometime?". Phrase it however suits you.

Question. Are there things not to say or talk about when meeting a women? whether it be the first inauguration or first meeting for coffee(or something)? Personally I wouldn't say that I go to the gym 5 times a week and I never mention that I study Engineering and Mathematics (at first). I just say Engineering.

Something that eurks me though is they always ask me where I come from.
 
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whitay said:
Question. Are there things not to say or talk about when meeting a women? whether it be the first inauguration or first meeting for coffee(or something)? Personally I wouldn't say that I go to the gym 5 times a week and I never mention that I study Engineering and Mathematics (at first). I just say Engineering.

Why not?

Don't ask her what her bra size is. Unless you're THE MAN.
 
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whitay said:
I know.

Everyone has said that you should ask her to coffee or breakfast or something. But if she is interested then she might have something in mind. Leave the question opened ended in some sense like say "Would you like to go to coffee or something sometime?". Phrase it however suits you.

Question. Are there things not to say or talk about when meeting a women? whether it be the first inauguration or first meeting for coffee(or something)? Personally I wouldn't say that I go to the gym 5 times a week and I never mention that I study Engineering and Mathematics (at first). I just say Engineering.

Something that eurks me though is they always ask me where I come from.

As far as things not to say...well, you just have to play it by ear. Something that strikes one girl as clever and witty might strike another as too smart @ss. But don't let that stop you...if a girl is offended by you being yourself, well, it wouldn't have worked out anyway, right?

And I'd extend that to telling girls you're studying engineering and math. Believe me, I know this from experience. Once upon a time, I was a young woman studying physics. Often I'd meet guys in a club or party or whatever...they would ask, and I would proudly tell them I was studying physics. Easily 90% would shrink away, or start apologizing for their bad math grades. But some wouldn't - those were the guys worth meeting.

So why are you bothered by being asked where you're from?
 
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Just be yourself and talk to them. If they don't like you for it, then they aren't for you.

The world is 70% water and 50% p**sY. Plenty to work with.
 
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Pengwuino said:
Why not?

Don't ask her what her bra size is. Unless you're THE MAN.

Cause the response always is "You must be smart!" but I tend not to agree.
 
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whitay said:
Cause the response always is "You must be smart!" but I tend not to agree.
I used to get that response when I mentioned studying nuclear and astrophysics, then later nuclear engineering. My response was - "No, not really. Just very curious."

I prefer honesty. Like lisab indicated, if the other is serious about relationships, then the fact that one is studying physics, or the fact that one is intelligent should not be a problem.
 
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lisab said:
As far as things not to say...well, you just have to play it by ear. Something that strikes one girl as clever and witty might strike another as too smart @ss. But don't let that stop you...if a girl is offended by you being yourself, well, it wouldn't have worked out anyway, right?

And I'd extend that to telling girls you're studying engineering and math. Believe me, I know this from experience. Once upon a time, I was a young woman studying physics. Often I'd meet guys in a club or party or whatever...they would ask, and I would proudly tell them I was studying physics. Easily 90% would shrink away, or start apologizing for their bad math grades. But some wouldn't - those were the guys worth meeting.

So why are you bothered by being asked where you're from?

I don't think they would be offended but more detered. But it all really comes down to insecurities from both parties. For instance someone may be detered simply because they are insecure about how intelligent they actually are.

I'm Australian however due to a lengthy year away I developed an american accent which is persistent on staying. I also blatantly refuse to use colloquial language.

Edit: I also don't play rugby. Never have. Never will. Therefore in Australian one must come from another planet.
 
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I had thought the 'ay' at the end of your username might be making use of a northern colloquialism.
I must have been wrong.
 
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fuzzyfelt said:
I had thought the 'ay' at the end of your username was using a north Qld colloquiallism.
I must have been wrong.

Ok! Now I'm scared. I don't think labeling people based on their user names is wise. I wouldn't take 'Evo' and say 'Humm! Evolution. Evo must be an Evolutionist. Humm! Astronuc. Maybe he can't spell Astronaut'.

You might be able to explain the 'ay!' but how do you explain the 'whit'?

Unfortunately there was no thought put into this name. I don't think. Can't remember. It just sounded cool at the time.

That is kind of well. I don't know how to respond. But I don't live in North Queensland.

Why not say that the whole of Australia say 'Aye!'? Unfortunately regions within Australia cannot be defined by colloquial language. Well as far as I am aware. People in the north sound the same as those in the south.

Canadians also say 'Aye!'.

Astronuc said:
I used to get that response when I mentioned studying nuclear and astrophysics, then later nuclear engineering. My response was - "No, not really. Just very curious."

I prefer honesty. Like lisab indicated, if the other is serious about relationships, then the fact that one is studying physics, or the fact that one is intelligent should not be a problem.

Never said it was a problem. Possibly more or less the age group we are dealing with in some instances.
 
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Sorry if that was scary. I just tend to remember Australians here, being one, and am fond of the northern accent, which does tend to end sentences with 'ay', which as you say, can also occur in Canada. Because it sounds more like home, I like it better than the questioning rise at the end of the sentence that other Australian accents can be prone to. I think it is often possible to tell from which region a person comes from there. Incidentally, I have lived away for a long time and have lost much of my accent too. And I don't really read much into usernames, but do try to appreciate the cleverer ones. Edit: On second thoughts, I don't really remember Australians here that much, but had mistakenly thought your username was intentionally amusing.
 
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whitay said:
I don't think they would be offended but more detered. But it all really comes down to insecurities from both parties. For instance someone may be detered simply because they are insecure about how intelligent they actually are.

I'm Australian however due to a lengthy year away I developed an american accent which is persistent on staying. I also blatantly refuse to use colloquial language.

Edit: I also don't play rugby. Never have. Never will. Therefore in Australian one must come from another planet.

Couldn't you just lie and tell people you're from New Zealand?
 
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whitay said:
I don't think they would be offended but more detered. But it all really comes down to insecurities from both parties. For instance someone may be detered simply because they are insecure about how intelligent they actually are.

I'm Australian however due to a lengthy year away I developed an american accent which is persistent on staying. I also blatantly refuse to use colloquial language.

Edit: I also don't play rugby. Never have. Never will. Therefore in Australian one must come from another planet.
Hmmm - I was a fan of VFL, but not into rugby. I also enjoyed soccer. I didn't play cricket or tennis, which were two popular sports growing up in Melbourne. I also preferred not to use colloquial language.

I've lived in the US since '66 and people were often curious about my accent, which was more like a London accent than Australian. Some Americans thought I was from New England or England, rather than Australia - and some even asked me to 'speak in Australian'. I didn't understand their expectations.

Astronuc is short of Astronuclear - which was the area of my research in grad school.
 
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As to the original question...

Isn't there a help desk you can call?

Try this one: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=366756169934472530
 
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whitay said:
I never mention that I study Engineering and Mathematics (at first). I just say Engineering.

What?! Women dig mathematicians!
 
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I don't understand these recurring threads. You approach women the same way you approach anybody else, and if there is chemistry things will develop naturally. If you try to make this thing into an exact science and calculate your every move and try to outmaneuver women, you will fail. Women understand this stuff on so many more ways and levels than men that you stand no chance.
 
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Werg22 said:
I don't understand these recurring threads. You approach women the same way you approach anybody else, and if there is chemistry things will develop naturally. If you try to make this thing into an exact science and calculate your every move and try to outmaneuver women, you will fail. Women understand this stuff on so many more ways and levels than men that you stand no chance.

I own over 20 slide rules, 2 abacuses, and a TI-86. One of these has to work!
 
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BobG said:
I own over 20 slide rules, 2 abacuses, and a TI-86. One of these has to work!

women are too complicated.

woman-vs-man-buttons.jpg
 
  • #48
Werg22 said:
I don't understand these recurring threads.

Yes, I propose we sticky a "dating thread."
 
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Pinu7 said:
I don't understand these recurring threads.

They reoccur because nerdy guys think that women are a different animal species entirely and not, you know, normal people who you can use common sense to communicate with.
 
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MissSilvy said:
They reoccur because nerdy guys think that women are a different animal species entirely and not, you know, normal people who you can use common sense to communicate with.

You can? :bugeye:
 
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