Is Equating Energies a Better Solution for Finding Extension Under Spring Force?

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Equating the forces mg and kx is a common approach to solve for the spring constant k, but the discussion highlights that using energy conservation principles may be more appropriate in this scenario. The mass is described as hanging from the spring, indicating a static condition rather than a dynamic one where energy would be conserved. The correct interpretation suggests that at the point where mg equals kx, the mass still has velocity, meaning this is not the final extension. If the problem had indicated that the mass was attached and then released, energy conservation would apply. Therefore, understanding the context of the problem is crucial for determining the right method to find the spring constant.
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Homework Statement
An 8 kg mass hangs from a spring and and stretches it by 16 cm beyond its natural lenght find k of the spring
Relevant Equations
F=kx
Its a very basic problem and my friend suggested a solution that we should equate mg and kx ie mg=kx and just plug in m=8 and x=0.16 but i think that we should equate the energies like mgx=1/2kx^2 ie because at the point where mg will be equal to kx the mass will still have a velocity hence it will not be the final extension am i correct??
 
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Prabs3257 said:
Homework Statement: An 8 kg mass hangs from a spring and and stretches it by 16 cm beyond its natural length find k of the spring
Homework Equations: F=kx

Its a very basic problem and my friend suggested a solution that we should equate mg and kx ie mg=kx and just plug in m=8 and x=0.16 but i think that we should equate the energies like mgx=1/2kx^2 ie because at the point where mg will be equal to kx the mass will still have a velocity hence it will not be the final extension am i correct??
It "hangs from", not "is attached to and then released", so it describes a static condition.
 
Oh ok now i get it thanks
 
haruspex said:
It "hangs from", not "is attached to and then released", so it describes a static condition.
if it was written is attatched to and then released then we would conserve energy right ?? If yes then Coz of the same reason i gave right ??
 
Prabs3257 said:
if it was written is attatched to and then released then we would conserve energy right ?? If yes then Coz of the same reason i gave right ??
Yes, if we read the given extension as being the maximum.
 
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