Is f Differentiable? - Vector Calculus

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The discussion centers around the differentiability of the function f(x,y) defined piecewise, specifically at the point (0,0). Participants are exploring the implications of the function's behavior as it approaches this point, particularly through the use of limits and partial derivatives.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to analyze the limit of the function as (x,y) approaches (0,0) and questions whether this limit equals zero. They mention using delta-epsilon proofs and testing various paths to the origin.
  • Some participants suggest converting to polar coordinates to simplify the limit evaluation, noting that this can help determine if the limit is independent of the angle θ.
  • One participant presents a mathematical inequality related to the limit, raising questions about the relationship between the limit and the definition of differentiability.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to analyze the limit and its implications for differentiability. There is no explicit consensus reached yet, but various approaches are being considered, including polar coordinates and inequalities.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as posed, focusing on the definitions and properties of differentiability without additional context or external resources.

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I have a problem regarding the function f (x,y) = {x*y*(x^2-y^2)/(x^2+y^2) if (x,y)!=(0,0) and f(x,y)=0 if (x,y)=(0,0).

I am asked if this function is differentiable. Running it through a graphing program it looks differentiable. I know the partial derivatives of it in terms of x and y are 0 and 0 respectively and I know that a function is differentiable at (0,0) if fx(0,0) and fy(0,0) exists which they do and if lim (x,y)->(0,0) [f(x,y)-h(x,y)/||(x,y)-(a,b)||]=0 where h(x,y) describes the tangent plane of the function at point (a,b) or in our case (0,0).

So after a lot of algebra which I will not repeat here using the above definition I boil it all down to lim (x,y)->(0,0) [x*y*(x^2-y^2)/sqrt(x^2+y^2)] and the question is does this = 0? I have tried to prove it is using delta epsilon proofs but I just get a bunch of gibberish unless I am doing something wrong, I might be I am not sure and I have also tried to prove this is wrong by trying to come into (0,0) at some odd angle like y=mx and showing it doesn't = 0 but all attempts have failed. Help.
 
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The simplest thing to do with limits of functions of two variables at (0, 0) is convert to polar coordinates. That way the single variable r gives the distance from (0,0). If the limit as r goes to 0 is independent of [itex]\theta[/itex] then the limit as (x,y)-> (0,0) exists and is that value.
 
[tex] \left| {\frac{{xy\left( {x^2 - y^2 } \right)}}{{\sqrt {x^2 + y^2 } }} - 0} \right|[/tex]

[tex] \le \left| {\frac{{x\sqrt {x^2 + y^2 } \left( {x^2 - y^2 } \right)}}{{\sqrt {x^2 + y^2 } }}} \right|[/tex]

[tex] = \left| x \right|\left| {x^2 - y^2 } \right|[/tex]

[tex] \le \left| x \right|\left( {\left| x \right|^2 + \left| y \right|^2 } \right)[/tex]

[tex] \le \sqrt {x^2 + y^2 } \left[ {\left( {x^2 + y^2 } \right) + \left( {x^2 + y^2 } \right)} \right][/tex]

What's between zero and delta? (refer to the definition)
 

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