Is Kinetic Energy Equal to Negative Potential Energy in Circular Orbital Motion?

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In circular orbital motion, kinetic energy (T) and potential energy (U) are related such that T = -1/2U, indicating that kinetic energy is the negative of potential energy. This relationship holds true for closed orbits, where kinetic energy remains constant while potential energy can vary. The discussion clarifies that while T can remain unchanged as U changes, this does not contradict the established relationship for circular orbits. The confusion arises from scenarios where potential energy changes without affecting kinetic energy, such as lifting an object at constant speed. Ultimately, the key takeaway is the specific relationship between kinetic and potential energy in circular orbits, rather than their individual constancy.
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Hey, so I have a question about motions of planets and their energy basically.

When we have a circular orbit, why is it that the kinetic energy is just the opposite of potential energy? (Assuming it's a closed orbit)

Like if we have U = something, than the kinetic energy T = -1/2U? This would be saying the kinetic energy doesn't change for a circular orbit but the potential energy does, and than I would think this would be a parabolic orbit as energy would then equal to 0 and epsilon (eccentricity) is equal to 1.

I hope that made sense, I'm having trouble understanding such motion.
 
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When we have a circular orbit, why is it that the kinetic energy is just the opposite of potential energy? (Assuming it's a closed orbit)
Have you followed the derivation?
http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~broholm/l24/node1.html

Like if we have U = something, than the kinetic energy T = -1/2U? This would be saying the kinetic energy doesn't change for a circular orbit but the potential energy does...
No - if U changes, the T will also change. If U does not change, then neither does T.
Note: that should be T=-(1/2)U
 
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Interesting, because recently I did a problem, for which the kinetic energy remained the same and the potential energy had changed, so that is where most of the confusion comes from.
 
It is possible T to remain the same and for U to change - this happens, for eg, when you lift an object at a constant speed - I'm not saying that cannot happen. I am saying that the relation T=-(1/2)U does not indicate that either U or T will change or remain the same. Instead it tells you the relationship between U and T for a circular orbit.
See the link in post #2.
 
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