Is my proof for (log10 a)/(log10 b) being irrational correct?

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The discussion focuses on proving that (log10 a)/(log10 b) is irrational when a and b are relatively prime and greater than 1. The initial proof attempt introduces variables x and y to represent log10 a and log10 b, respectively, but some participants suggest simplifying the approach by directly manipulating the equation. The feedback emphasizes that expressing the relationship as q(log10 a) = p(log10 b) is a more straightforward method. Additionally, using logb a is recommended for clarity. The conversation highlights the importance of clear reasoning and efficient proof writing in mathematical arguments.
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I can never seem to create proofs the way it is shown in every textbook I've seen. To be honest, I don't really know how to write the proofs correctly. I've seen sometimes my reasons are flawed and other times I go around aimlessly and get home after some unnecessary steps. So I would just like some feedback here:

Homework Statement


Prove that (log10 a)/(log10 b) is not rational if a and b are relatively prime and both are greater than 1.

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Suppose that (log10 a)/(log10 b) is rational, then they are expressed as fraction:
(log10 a)/(log10 b) = p/q, where p and q are integers. q not 0. p not 0 because a is greater than 1.
Let 10x = a
and 10y = b
x and y cannot be zero because a and b cannot be 1.
Now if a and b are relatively prime, ie they have only 1 as their common factor then x and y too are relatively prime.

Reason:
Suppose that x and y share a common factor greater than 1, then:
let x = kc
and y = kz
where k is the common factor, which is not negative or 0 because a and b are greater than 1 and c and z are also not 0 or negative.
So then, 10kc = a
and 10kz = b
x = log10 a
y = log10 b
So, kc = log10 a
and kz = log10 b
But then, (10k)c = a
and (10k)z = b
And this contradicts the fact that a and b are relatively prime. So x and y are also relatively prime.

So now we can write:
x/y = p/q
i.e, xq = py
This cannot be true because x and y are relatively prime. This means x/y is not rational.
And since x = log10 a
and y = log10 b
(log10 a)/(log10 b) is not rational.

Thank-you
 
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Hi Thinker8921! :smile:

hmm … this is really complicated :redface:

you're introducing x and y for no particular reason. :confused:

Just do …
Thinker8921 said:
Suppose that (log10 a)/(log10 b) is rational, then they are expressed as fraction:
(log10 a)/(log10 b) = p/q, where p and q are integers. q not 0. p not 0 because a is greater than 1.

… then write that as q(log10 a) = p(log10 b), and carry on from there. :smile:

(or better still use logb a, if you know how to do that)
 
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