Is Plate Capacitor Gap a "Non-linear" Medium?

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The discussion centers on whether the air gap between DC charged parallel plates can be considered a "non-linear" medium in relation to an EM field generated by a coil within that space. It is noted that the air gap is likely to behave linearly under most conditions, except near breakdown potential, while real capacitors may exhibit non-linear characteristics due to the dielectric material used. The complexity increases when AC is applied, and the charge distribution in different capacitor shapes can also affect linearity. The conversation touches on the implications of inserting an EM radiating coil into the capacitor setup and its potential effects on linearity. Overall, the consensus leans towards the ideal capacitor being linear, with non-linearity arising from practical defects or specific configurations.
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Could the space (air gap) between two DC charged parallel plates be considered to be a "non-linear" medium with respect to an EMF radiated by a coil contained within that space?
 
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Fluxation said:
Could the space (air gap) between two DC charged parallel plates be considered to be a "non-linear" medium with respect to an EMF radiated by a coil contained within that space?
Only if the PD were very near the breakdown potential. Superposition applies over a huge range of Field Strengths and Air is more likely to be linear (in the limit) than any solid dielectric, I think.
 
In practical HV applications, the inner surfaces of the flat capacitor plates would probably be covered in a material such as mylar or kapton sheet. As I understand its molecules would be distorted by the superposed ES field gradient.

Would this of itself not give rise to some form of non-linearity with respect to intersecting EMF's?

Although not germaine to the OP, it might also be pointed out that in a spherical or cylindrical cap the charge distribution itself is non-linear.

All this no doubt becomes more complex if AC instead of DC is applied.

Comments?
 
An ideal capacitor is linear, by definition. Any nonlinearity is a defect in the capacitor.

Most real capacitors are pretty close to linear if operated within their designed parameters.
 
There appears to be a difference of opinion on this since the charge/discharge curves of a cap are exponential. There is no straight line relationship between V and I unless plotted together.

The dielectric material also needs to be factored in. Does it have ferroelectric properties?

http://www.eecg.toronto.edu/~ali/ferro/model.html

Here is a thought. What would happen if I sandwitched a flat spiral coil of insulated wire between two oppositely charged disks and fed it with a non-repetitive signal?

Could such a configuration be used to simulate a ferroelectric dielectric?
 
Fluxation said:
There is no straight line relationship between V and I unless plotted together
The defining equation ##i=C\frac{d}{dt}v## is a linear differential equation. As I said above, a capacitor is linear by definition
 
I did not mean to disagree with you, but was rather inquiring about any predictable effect upon the ideal linearity of a plate cap that might be caused by insertion within it of an EMF radiating coil.
 
Fluxation said:
an EMF radiating coil.
I think you mean an EM radiating coil. It's not appropriate terminology to talk of radiating an EMF.
 
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