Is Russian meteor related to a asteroid known as 2012 DA14?

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The European Space Agency (ESA) asserts that the Russian meteor is not related to the asteroid 2012 DA14, which is set to pass close to Earth. Discussions highlight skepticism about the meteor's trajectory, with some arguing that its horizontal path makes a connection to 2012 DA14 unlikely. Participants emphasize the importance of reputable sources and scientific data to support claims, with many rejecting anecdotal evidence. The debate centers on the gravitational effects and orbital characteristics that would influence the meteor's trajectory. Ultimately, the consensus leans towards the two being unrelated based on current scientific understanding.
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Unless you've done the math to determine the orbital characteristics of the meteor and compared them to 2012 DA14, then I will take NASA's opinion over yours. And even then I probably still would.
The chance that the meteor was related to 2012 DA14 and happened to be pulled into an approach trajectory that is completely opposite of what it was prior to its encounter with the Earth is very remote, if not impossible.
 
Drakkith said:
Unless you've done the math to determine the orbital characteristics of the meteor and compared them to 2012 DA14, then I will take NASA's opinion over yours. And even then I probably still would.
The chance that the meteor was related to 2012 DA14 and happened to be pulled into an approach trajectory that is completely opposite of what it was prior to its encounter with the Earth is very remote, if not impossible.

Probability is thin thing. You see shallow trajectory. To have shallow trajectory is ALMOST impossible! But it DOES real!
 
M@2 said:
Probability is thin thing.

Probability is an very important part of science.

You see shallow trajectory. To have shallow trajectory is ALMOST impossible! But it DOES real!

Please provide a reference stating the meteors trajectory. Then we can discuss it.
 
Drakkith said:
Probability is an very important part of science.

Please provide a reference stating the meteors trajectory. Then we can discuss it.

I read arguments in russian press. They say about OPPOSITE directions of russian meteor and asteroid, so they decide that asteroid and meteor are unconnected.

But what about meteor, being a member of "2012 DA14 asteroid belt" (in some sense), made 1/2 revolt around the Earth chandged the direction of motion?
 
M@2 said:
But what about meteor, being a member of "2012 DA14 asteroid belt" (in some sense), made 1/2 revolt around the Earth chandged the direction of motion?

Very unlikely. That's why they claim they aren't connected. I don't think they Earth's gravitational pull is strong enough to completely change the trajectory of the meteor BEFORE it hits the atmosphere. Not if it was traveling at a similar velocity to 2012 DA14. And if it wasn't traveling the same speed, then it wouldn't be connected.
 
We have many reputable sources stating that the two are unrelated.

Do you have any reputable source arguing that there is a relation between the two?? If not, then this thread is over.
 
micromass said:
We have many reputable sources stating that the two are unrelated.

Do you have any reputable source arguing that there is a relation between the two?? If not, then this thread is over.
My reputable source is my education.
Do You have reputable source publications?

I don't think "reputable" source can publish "reputable" article with "reputable" data about Russian meteor in one day.
Have you russian anti-missile system data already?
In 1961 we shot down american spy plane U-2 about the same place.

There were data that we, russians, tryed to shot down meteor :)
 
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Drakkith said:
... I don't think they Earth's gravitational pull is strong enough to completely change the trajectory of the meteor BEFORE it hits the atmosphere. Not if it was traveling at a similar velocity to 2012 DA14.

Before or not before in outer space bodyes obey Newton's gravitational law. And can be captured by Earths gravitation if their trajectories are close enough to Earth.
 
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M@2 said:
My reputable source is my education.
Do You have reputable source publications?

I don't think "reputable" source can publish "reputable" article with "reputable" data about Russian meteor in one day.
Have you russian anti-missile system data already?
In 1961 we shot down american spy plane U-2 about the same place.

There were data that we, russians, tryed to shot down meteor :)

I thought so. Please be sure to read our rules: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=414380

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