Is Science Fiction Just Fantasy or Could It Be Real?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of passion as a flame that does not physically burn, but rather refers to an intense feeling or emotion. The example of the biblical burning bush and firewalking are given as instances of flames that do not cause physical harm. The mention of the fire dress in the movie "Hunger Games" leads to a discussion about the use of special effects and the concept of cold fusion. The conversation concludes with a reminder that this forum is for discussing science fiction, not pseudoscience.
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What's that flame in the back of Katniss that doesn't really burn? What flames can't burn?
 
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Passion is a flame that does not burn. :)

The trick with these things is to define what you mean by "flame" and "burn" ... by definition, physical combustion means that something has to burn ... but it just does not have to be the thing you expect.

The biblical burning bush burns without being consumed by the fire[1] and this is what is usually meant and that is what is meant in the Hunger Games fire dress.

You can also firewalk without getting burned.

Perfectly normal flames do not have to burn you.
So it all boils down to definitions and desired effects.

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[1] Dictamnus Alexander and Zhenia Fleisher note that:
Intermittently, under yet unclear conditions, the plant excretes such a vast amount of volatiles that lighting a match near the flowers and seedpods causes the plant to be enveloped by flame. This flame quickly extinguishes without injury to the plant.

... probably not miraculous enough for christians though.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Passion is a flame that does not burn. :)

The trick with these things is to define what you mean by "flame" and "burn" ... by definition, physical combustion means that something has to burn ... but it just does not have to be the thing you expect.

The biblical burning bush burns without being consumed by the fire[1] and this is what is usually meant and that is what is meant in the Hunger Games fire dress.

You can also firewalk without getting burned.

Perfectly normal flames do not have to burn you.
So it all boils down to definitions and desired effects.

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[1] Dictamnus Alexander and Zhenia Fleisher note that:
Intermittently, under yet unclear conditions, the plant excretes such a vast amount of volatiles that lighting a match near the flowers and seedpods causes the plant to be enveloped by flame. This flame quickly extinguishes without injury to the plant.

... probably not miraculous enough for christians though.

so how does the fire dress work? it's like cold fire.. maybe akin to cold fusion?
 
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<sigh> Hunger Games is fiction. It is not real.
Did they put the dress in the movie? Are you asking how the special effect was done?

Note: cold fusion is not all that cold ... it is just less than millions of degrees.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
<sigh> Hunger Games is fiction. It is not real.
Did they put the dress in the movie? Are you asking how the special effect was done?

Note: cold fusion is not all that cold ... it is just less than millions of degrees.

But in Many Worlds of Quantum.. anything that can happen will happen and is happening. so somewhere out there it happens
 
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rodsika said:
But in Many Worlds of Quantum.. anything that can happen will happen and is happening. so somewhere out there it happens

This forum is about science fiction, not pseudoscience. If you want to argue about science fiction and fantasy, then you are welcome to. But if you want to argue that science fiction is real in some sense, then this forum is not the place for it.

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1. What is "fire that doesn't burn"?

"Fire that doesn't burn" refers to a phenomenon where a material or substance appears to be on fire, but does not produce heat or consume oxygen like a traditional fire would.

2. How is it possible for fire to not burn?

This phenomenon is possible because there are different types of fires, with different sources of heat and combustion. Some materials may undergo a chemical reaction that produces light and smoke, but not heat, giving the appearance of fire without actual burning.

3. Can you provide an example of "fire that doesn't burn"?

One example of "fire that doesn't burn" is a fire tornado, also known as a fire whirl. This is a naturally occurring phenomenon that is caused by hot air rising and spinning, creating a vortex that looks like a tornado but is made of fire. However, the fire tornado does not consume any additional fuel or produce heat, making it a type of "fire that doesn't burn".

4. Is "fire that doesn't burn" dangerous?

This depends on the specific type of "fire that doesn't burn". While some types may be harmless, others can still pose a danger due to the presence of toxic gases or the potential for the fire to spread to other materials. It is always important to exercise caution and follow safety protocols when dealing with any type of fire.

5. How do scientists study "fire that doesn't burn"?

Scientists study "fire that doesn't burn" by conducting experiments and analyzing the chemical reactions and physical properties of the materials involved. They also use advanced imaging techniques, such as thermal cameras, to better understand the processes at work. Additionally, scientists may study real-world examples of "fire that doesn't burn", such as fire whirls, to gather data and make observations.

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