Is strain always recoverable in a viscoelastic solid?

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The discussion revolves around the recoverability of strain in viscoelastic solids, specifically examining the behavior of different Maxwell models. Participants explore whether strain is always recoverable and the implications of using single-branch versus two-branch models.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that in the single-branch Maxwell model, there is unrecoverable strain, while others question this assumption.
  • One participant asserts that any strain energy dissipated by viscosity, such as during creep, results in plastic deformation.
  • There is a suggestion that in a two-branch Maxwell model, all strain must be recoverable, though this claim is not universally accepted.
  • Another participant notes that the single-branch Maxwell model does not represent perfect viscoelasticity due to its viscoplastic contributions.
  • One participant emphasizes that both the simple Maxwell model and the generalized Voigt model are classified as perfectly viscoelastic materials within the discipline.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the recoverability of strain in viscoelastic solids, with no consensus reached regarding the implications of the Maxwell models discussed.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential misunderstandings of the definitions of viscoelasticity and viscoplasticity, as well as the specific conditions under which strain may or may not be recoverable.

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Is strain always recoverable in a viscoelastic solid?

For instance, I thought in the single-branch Maxwell model, there was unrecoverable strain ... or am I wrong?

And then if you use a two branch Maxwell model (one spring, one spring + dashpot), all strain must be recoverable, correct?
 
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PinkGeologist said:
Is strain always recoverable in a viscoelastic solid?

For instance, I thought in the single-branch Maxwell model, there was unrecoverable strain ... or am I wrong?

And then if you use a two branch Maxwell model (one spring, one spring + dashpot), all strain must be recoverable, correct?
Both your answers are correct.

Chet
 
PinkGeologist said:
Is strain always recoverable in a viscoelastic solid?

For instance, I thought in the single-branch Maxwell model, there was unrecoverable strain ... or am I wrong?
Yes, but this model does not describe perfect viscoelasticity but has a viscoplastic contribution, too.
 
DrDu said:
Yes, but this model does not describe perfect viscoelasticity but has a viscoplastic contribution, too.
Viscoelasticity was my thesis area. In the terminology of this discipline, both the models described by the OP (the simple Maxwell model and the generalized Voigt model) are designated as perfectly viscoelastic materials.

Chet
 

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