Is There a Conservation Equation for Spring Forces and Potential Energy?

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The discussion revolves around the conservation of energy in relation to spring forces, emphasizing that spring forces are conservative. It confirms that there is a conservation equation for springs, similar to the general conservation of energy equation, incorporating spring potential energy. When a mass is placed on a spring and it stretches fully, the velocity is zero, and potential energy is maximized. In horizontal scenarios without friction, the conservation equation can be simplified, while vertical scenarios require accounting for gravitational potential energy. The conversation concludes with a confirmation of the correct application of energy conservation principles in both scenarios.
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I just have a question about the force of a spring. Since the force of a spring force is a conservative force, is there a conservation equation for springs? Also, when a mass is put on a spring and it streches out fully, at this point velocity is zero and potential energy is at its max. What can i set potential energy equal to at this point?


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pb23me said:

Homework Statement


I just have a question about the force of a spring. Since the force of a spring force is a conservative force, is there a conservation equation for springs?
yes, it is similar to the conservation of energy equation with the added terms of the spring's potential energy
Also, when a mass is put on a spring and its streches out fully, at this point velocity is zero and potential energy is at its max. What can i set potential energy equal to at this point?
Use the conservation of energy equation! What is the potential energy of a spring?
 
ok so would it be kxi2+mvi2=kxf2+mvf2
 
pb23me said:
ok so would it be kxi2+mvi2=kxf2+mvf2
Yes, if the the spring was horizontal and no other forces (like friction) acting..If the spirng was hanging vertical and the mass released, you'd have to include the gravitational potential energy change also. (It's a good idea to not drop the '1/2' term, even though it cancels out in this first example).
 
ok so if it were hanging vertically it would be mgyi+1/2mvi2+1/2kxi2=mgyf+1/2mvf2+1/2kxf2?
 
pb23me said:
ok so if it were hanging vertically it would be mgyi+1/2mvi2+1/2kxi2=mgyf+1/2mvf2+1/2kxf2?
yes, indeed.:approve:
 
:smile:awsome maybe you could take a look at my other prob entitled simple harmonic motion haha
 
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