Is there an error in my textbook?

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The discussion revolves around the integral of sec x tan x and its relationship to sec x, questioning the correctness of a textbook statement regarding this integral.

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  • Participants explore the integral of sec x tan x, with some questioning its equivalence to sec x and discussing the implications of differentiation and the chain rule in their reasoning.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some expressing confusion about the application of differentiation and integration techniques. There are indications of productive direction as participants reflect on their understanding of the chain rule and its relevance to the problem.

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Doesn't the integral of sec x tan x equal sec x?

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Maddie1609 said:

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Doesn't the integral of sec x tan x equal sec x?

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Your textbook is correct. The attachment of your work is too small and blurry for me to read, so I will not even try. I will look at it if you type it out.
 
Ray Vickson said:
Your textbook is correct. The attachment of your work is too small and blurry for me to read, so I will not even try. I will look at it if you type it out.
Great, thanks :-) Isn't the integral of sec x tan x equal to sec x?
 
Maddie1609 said:
Great, thanks :-) Isn't the integral of sec x tan x equal to sec x?
Yes, but I don't see how this fact applies to your question.
 
Maddie1609 said:
Great, thanks :-) Isn't the integral of sec x tan x equal to sec x?

Yes, as you can verify by taking the derivative. Likewise, you can check the book's answer by differentiation (which is something you should always do whenever you integrate).
 
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Maddie1609 said:
Isn't the integral of sec x tan x equal to sec x?

Well, it is correct, but the textbook uses the fact that \frac{d\tan x}{dx} = \sec^2 x. If you use \frac{d(\sec x \tan x)}{dx} = \sec x, then the first part of integration will be
\int \sec^2 x \tan^2 x dx = \int \sec x \tan^2 x d(\sec x \tan x),
which is not that easy to calculate. However, when you use \frac{d\tan x}{dx} = \sec^2 x, then
\int \sec^2 x \tan^2 x dx = \int \tan^2 x d(\tan x) = \dfrac{1}{3} \tan^3 x + C_1.
 
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Daeho Ro said:
Well, it is correct, but the textbook uses the fact that \frac{d\tan x}{dx} = \sec^2 x. If you use \frac{d(\sec x \tan x)}{dx} = \sec x, then the first part of integration will be
\int \sec^2 x \tan^2 x dx = \int \sec x \tan^2 x d(\sec x \tan x),
which is not that easy to calculate. However, when you use \frac{d\tan x}{dx} = \sec^2 x, then
\int \sec^2 x \tan^2 x dx = \int \tan^2 x d(\tan x) = \dfrac{1}{3} \tan^3 x + C_1.
Thank you! I just went over it again and realized I forgot about the chain rule.
 
Mark44 said:
Yes, but I don't see how this fact applies to your question.
I just realized as much myself:-p I forgot about the chain rule, so I intgrated (sec x tan x)2 to be (sec3 x)/3.
 

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