Is this complex function analytic?

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The discussion revolves around the analyticity of a complex function defined by its real and imaginary components, specifically examining the conditions under which the function satisfies the Cauchy-Riemann equations. Participants explore whether the function is analytic along a specific line in the complex plane and the implications of analyticity in broader contexts.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants analyze the Cauchy-Riemann equations to determine if the function is analytic, questioning the validity of results along the line x=0 versus the entire domain. Some express confusion about the difference between differentiability and analyticity, particularly in relation to specific examples.

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The discussion is active, with participants presenting differing viewpoints on the implications of the Cauchy-Riemann conditions. Some assert that the function is analytic on the line x=0, while others argue that it fails to be analytic in a broader context. There is recognition of the need for clarity regarding the definitions of differentiability and analyticity.

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Participants note that the original question asks for analyticity in an open set, which may influence interpretations of the results. The distinction between being analytic at a point or along a line versus in a neighborhood is a focal point of the discussion.

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Homework Statement
Is f = u(x,y) + iv(x,y) an analytic function of z=x+iy where ## u(x,y) = x^3 - 3x(y^2) ## and ##v(x,y) = -y^3-3(x^2)y ##
Relevant Equations
The Cauchy-Riemann equations ,
## u_x = 3x^2 -3y^2 ## and ## v_y = -3y^2-3x^2 ##

## u_y = -6xy## and ## v_x = -6xy##

To be analytic a function must satisfy ##u_x = v_y## and ##u_y = -v_x##

Both these conditions are met by x=0 and y taking any value so I think the functions is analytic anywhere on the line x=0

However the answer is that the function is not analytic ; I don't understand that. Any help would be appreciated
 
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dyn said:
Problem Statement: Is f = u(x,y) + iv(x,y) an analytic function of z=x+iy where ## u(x,y) = x^3 - 3x(y^2) ## and ##v(x,y) = -y^3-3(x^2)y ##
Relevant Equations: The Cauchy-Riemann equations ,

## u_x = 3x^2 -3y^2 ## and ## v_y = -3y^2-3x^2 ##

## u_y = -6xy## and ## v_x = -6xy##

To be analytic a function must satisfy ##u_x = v_y## and ##u_y = -v_x##

A function is (complex) analytic if and only if:
$$\begin{align}
u_x &= v_y \\
u_y &= -v_x
\end{align}$$
Just plug in and check that:
$$\begin{align}
(1):& \quad 3x^2 -3y^2 \neq -3y^2-3x^2 \notag \\
(2):& \quad -6xy \neq -(-6xy) \notag
\end{align}$$
Therefore the function is not analytic. Moreover, being analytic on some line which is a subset of the functions domain instead of on the functions entire domain is irrelevant.
 
I have seen examples where a function such as ##f(z) = x(y^2-1)-ix^2y ## which is differentiable(ie. analytic) only on the circle ##x^2+y^2 =1##
I also think I remember functions only being analytic at a certain point.
So , I don't understand why the function in #1 is not analytic on the line x=0
 
It is analytic on that line but that isn't what the original question was asking, therefore you are going off on an irrelevant tangent.
 
The question says use the C-R conditions to test whether the complex function f is an analytic function of z. The C-R equations say that f is analytic on the line x=0
 
But it isn't analytic on the rest of the domain, i.e. it isn't analytic for any value of ##x## and ##y##.

You aren't really using the Cauchy-Riemann equations, but instead a conditional version which is numeric instead of algebraic:
$$\begin{align}
u_x &= v_y \\
u_y &= -v_x \\
x &= 0
\end{align}$$
 
But it is analytic for x=0 and any value of y , so the C-R conditions have shown that f is analytic on that particular line
 
I already agreed with that. What is your point? Is the function analytic on the line ##x=0##? Yes. Is the function analytic in general? No. Nothing more needs to be said.
 
Actually, if we try to approach the second Cauchy-Riemann equation ##u_y=-v_x## using a limit of ##x## to ##0## instead of ##0## itself, the function is clearly not analytic, since for any ## \lim_{x > 0}## we have that ##u_y## and ##-v_x## will always have opposite signs, meaning that they are complex conjugates and that the function is therefore by definition non-holomorphic i.e. not analytic.
 
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Unless there is some indication, I think you are safe to assume that they are asking if the function is analytic in an open set. I have never seen any use for knowing if it is analytic at a single isolated point or a line with no surrounding open set.
 
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I will try to explain my confusion more clearly using the following 2 examples.

Ex.1 By deriving the C-R equations for the function ## f(z) = x(y^2-1) - ix^2y ## infer the set of points (x,y) in the Argand diagram for which the function is differentiable.

Ex. 2 Use the C-R conditions to test if f=u(x,y)+iv(x,y) where ##u(x,y) = x^3 - 3x^2y## and ##v(x,y) = -y^3 - 3x^2y ## is an analytic function of z=x+iy

The answer for Ex.1 is that the function is differentiable on the circle ##x^2+y^2 = 1##

The answer for Ex.2 is that the 1st C-R condition is not satisfied as ##u_x = 3x^2-3y^2## and ## v_y = -3y^2- 3x^2##

My argument is that both C-R conditions are satisfied in Ex.2 for x=0 giving a straight vertical line through x=0.
I don't understand why a curve(circle) is a valid answer to Ex.1 but a curve(straight line) is not a valid answer to Ex.2 ?
 
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It is not the difference between a curve versus a straight line that is important. The only explanation that I see is that the first example is phrased differently: "differentiable" versus "analytic"; "set of points" versus ??;
The language of the first example might imply a different type of answer is appropriate. The language of the second example would usually imply that the function is not analytic. I am only used to seeing the term "analytic" when it is applied to its properties in a region (an open set). So I would not consider the function to be analytic only on the line x=0.
 
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Does that mean a function can be differentiable on a line/curve or even at a point but if it is only differentiable on that line/curve/point it is not analytic ?
 
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Yes, analyticity is a much stronger condition than differentiability, i.e. a function can be differentiable yet not be analytic but not vice versa.
 
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dyn said:
Does that mean a function can be differentiable on a line/curve or even at a point but if it is only differentiable on that line/curve/point it is not analytic ?
According to Arfken and Weber, a complex function is differentiable at a point ##z=z_0## iff the Cauchy-Riemann conditions hold at that point. The function is analytic at ##z=z_0## if it's differentiable at that point and in some small region around ##z_0##. These definitions are consistent with the two examples you provided.
 
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