Is x^n the Only Function with Its Specific Derivative and Integral Forms?

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The discussion revolves around the uniqueness of the function x^n in relation to its derivative and integral forms. The original poster questions whether x^n is the only function that has the derivative of nx^(n-1) and whether the integral form (x^(n+1))/(n+1) + C is unique, particularly in the context of n = -1 where the power rule does not apply.

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  • Participants discuss the nature of functions with a specific derivative and the implications of the mean value theorem. They explore the relationship between different forms of antiderivatives and question the uniqueness of these forms.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the nature of derivatives and antiderivatives. Some participants suggest that functions with the same derivative differ by a constant, while others point out the limitations of this assertion in non-connected domains. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these concepts without reaching a consensus.

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Participants note that the discussion is constrained by the definitions and assumptions regarding continuity and differentiability, particularly in relation to the domains of the functions being considered.

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dy/dx(x^n) = nx^(n-1)
∫(x^n)dx = (x^(n+1))/(n+1) + C (for n ≠ -1)

Q1:How do you know that x^n is the only function which has the derivative of nx^(n-1)?
and (x^(n+1))/(n+1) + C are the only primitive function of x^n?
Q2:∫(x^(-1))dx = ln|x| + C
We cannot use the power rule of integration in x^n when n = -1 as the result is undefined.
but we have the above formula to find the primitive function of x^-1
Is there any relationship between:
(x^(n+1))/(n+1) + C and ln|x| + C ?

Thx :)

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1) It's not but any function with a derivative of nx^(n-1) will differ by x^n by a constant. Let y1 and y2 be two functions with the derivative of nx^(n-1). Then [itex]y_1'-y_2'=(y_1-y_2)'=0[/itex]. This means that [itex]y_1-y_2[/itex] is a constant function, so they differ by a constant.
2) Nope, no relation other than that they deal with the same type of function (f(x)=x^n).
 
And to add to HS-Scientist's remarks, the underlying theorem for this is the mean value theorem. That is how you prove that a function whose derivative is identically zero is a constant.
 
And to add even further. The fact that a function whose derivative is zero is constant, that is only true on some "connected" domain such as entire ##\mathbb{R}## and intervals [a,b].

In more general situations, such as if the domain is ##\mathbb{R}\setminus \{0\}##, then it is wrong. So if you say that the only functions whose derivative is ##\frac{1}{x}## are the functions ##ln|x|+C## with ##C## a constant, then that is in fact wrong.
 
micromass said:
And to add even further. The fact that a function whose derivative is zero is constant, that is only true on some "connected" domain such as entire ##\mathbb{R}## and intervals [a,b].

In more general situations, such as if the domain is ##\mathbb{R}\setminus \{0\}##, then it is wrong. So if you say that the only functions whose derivative is ##\frac{1}{x}## are the functions ##ln|x|+C## with ##C## a constant, then that is in fact wrong.

Sure you could have an antiderivative of 1/x be ln|x|+a if x>0 and ln|x|+b if x<0. My comment should still be valid though because I was only talking about functions with a derivative of nx^(n-1) which can be defined on the whole real line. I guess you could still have something [itex]f:[0,1]\cup[2,3] \rightarrow \mathbb{R}[/itex] defined by [itex]f(x)=x^n[/itex] with different constants added to the function in the two connected components of the domain in which case you would still be right but normally when you solve integrals like in the OP you want to solve them on the largest possible domain.

Edit: [itex]\frac{d}{dx}ln|x|=\frac{1}{x}[/itex] is not of the form nx^(n-1) so I think the above should be valid.
 
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This is, actually, a crucially important question that is seldom asked. We have a specific formula for finding the derivative, but finding an anti-derivative is largely a matter of "remembering" a function that has that derivarive. Once we know that an antiderivative is not unique, how do we know there isn't some other, perhaps very complicated, function, having that same derivative?

The key to this is the "mean value theorem": If f is continuous on the closed interval [a, b] and differentiable on (a, b) then there exist a point c in (a, b) such that f'(c)= (f(b)- f(a))/(b- a). In particular, if f'(x)= 0 for all c, we have f(b)- f(a)= f'(c)(b- a)= 0 for all a and b: f(a)= f(b) so if f'(c)= 0 for all c, f is constant. If f'(x)= g'(x) for all c then f'(x)- g'x)= (f- g)'(x)= 0 so that f(x)- g(x)= constant and so f(x)= g(x)+ contstant.

Also, as I have said before, "dy/dx(x^n) = nx^(n-1)" is bad notation. What you mean is either "if y= x^n then dy/dx= nx^(n-1)" or "dx^n/dx= nx^(n-1)". "d/dx" is an operator than can be applied to a function but "dy/dx" is a completed derivative- d/dx has been applied to the function y.
 

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