Javelin Problem: Optimal Angle & Speed

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The discussion centers on determining the optimal angle and speed for throwing a javelin to achieve maximum distance, with a focus on a 90m throw. The optimal starting angle is suggested to be 45°, which is a common assumption for projectile motion to maximize range. However, participants emphasize the need to derive this angle mathematically rather than assume it. They note that the problem may require calculating the angle that maximizes horizontal distance based on the range formula. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of understanding the underlying physics principles rather than relying solely on intuitive guesses.
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Homework Statement


A javelin is thrown 90m in an optimal starting angle. Air resistance is not taken into consideration. a) What is the optimal starting angle? b) At what speed does the javelin fly from the thrower's hand?

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I really have no clue on this one. Is the optimal starting angle 45°? That would seem somehow logical.
 
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Skipe_ said:
I really have no clue on this one. Is the optimal starting angle 45°? That would seem somehow logical.
I suspect they want you to derive the optimal starting angle, not just assume it. I assume they mean 'what is the angle that gives the greatest horizontal distance'. This is also called the range of a projectile. But they could mean something else. How does your book define 'optimal starting angle'?
 
Yes, i understand what it means. I just don't understand how you can calculate it range being the only given variable.
 
Skipe_ said:
Yes, i understand what it means. I just don't understand how you can calculate it range being the only given variable.
If by 'optimal starting angle' they mean 'the angle that gives the greatest horizontal distance', then calculating that has nothing to do with the distance. It's a general result. Your 'logical' guess was correct, but now you must prove it.

This seems like an odd thing to ask as part of a problem, since it's such a general result. What book are you using?

In any case, assuming some unknown speed v and some initial angle theta figure out the range of a projectile. Then solve for the angle that maximizes that range.
 
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