I love dive bars and the sort of people I meet there. I was just recently having a discussion with a friend of mine who hates the area I live in because he says the people are all trash and scum, this is because when he lived in the area he mainly interacted with druggies. He says that the area he lives in is much better. It's all plastic and pretentious. I always feel out of place there.Danger said:That's my experience exactly. I've never even thought of joining (since I was about 12). I'd far rather have a conversation with a construction worker or truck driver over some beers than be inundated by inanities from a bunch of jerks. (Ideally, of course, I'd prefer to be with PFers and some beers) I've been in discussions of totally elementary subjects such as nuclear power generation with people who hadn't a clue what they were talking about except that they had to be right because they were geniuses in the top 2% of the population. I never had the heart to tell them that I'm in the top 1%, but it was tempting. The people who utilize their intelligence (any form thereof) in a useful manner are far more valuable than puff-balls who can't get over themselves.
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), but I decided it wasn't a good enough reason.The phrase like-minded is usually used in reference to disposition, not ability level.honestrosewater said:
It seems a certain someone is jealous of my ability to use words creatively.hitssquad said:
Evo said:
That whole interview hovers on the brink of being a stupid quetion/anser mini thread:Math Is Hard said:
They use child versions of the tests. The child version of the WAIS (Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale) is the WISC (Weschler Intelligence Scale for Children). The main reason children are tested is to help assess learning dysfunction. For example, if a child suffers from autism spectrum, a comprehensive mental ability test such as the WISC (the WISC features over a dozen individual and unique subtests) can help catch that since a peculiar profile of ability scores will likely show up in addition to achievement likely being incommensurate with overall ability.honestrosewater said:
yomamma said:
I had the same problem. I figured it was something with my security settings or the like, so I just gave up. I even tried typing the link, but it did the same thing. Maybe there's something wrong with the site. I took the test for exceptional intelligence before, so I know they worked at some time. Oh, it's working now.bomba923 said:That's what I did in the first place-->and I got sent back to http://www.highiqsociety.org/flash/...ers/iqtests.htm
Evo said:
and then...
No, but I would contact the school. Maybe you could pay to have the records forwarded to your university. Otherwise, they might want you to come down to the school in person with multiple forms of ID. I would think that they would not be willing to simply mail them to your house, because they wouldn't be able to be certain enough that you weren't some nefarious person trying to obtain someone else's psychological records.honestrosewater said:
Thank you very much for the information. I was actually tested for 'giftedness', whatever you call it, but I understand why you would think otherwise. Not that, you know, it matters or anything... I don't see any wheels.Daminc said:
What else? Nothing I can think of works. Maybe salad, being several different ingredients, but juices are also commonly mixed.I found that numbering the people helped to keep track. Start with your 85 cell phone people: Let people #1-85 have cell phones. Now, 80 people have a beeper. You're looking for the least number of people who share all 4 things. So give people #86-100 as many beepers as possible. That's 15 people, leaving 80 - 15 = 65 more people with beepers. So let people #1-65 have cell phones AND beepers. Repeat the process for the other two. 75 people speak two languages. Let people #66-100 speak two languages...unggio said:
Yes. There is a shorter way.honestrosewater said:
Cheese is not a beverage?honestrosewater said:
I like the explanation. I ended up with the same answer (10) but I wasn't sure how to prove it. I figured:honestrosewater said:
[/URL]hitssquad said:
Genius!Yes, that's shorter and makes at least as much sense. Everyone who doesn't have a cell phone is in the first group of 15 (1-15 don't have a cell phone, 16-100 do); Everyone without a beeper - next 20 (16-35 don't have, all others do); everyone without two languages - next 25; everyone without a suit - next 30; 15 + 20 + 25 + 30 = 90. Since everyone who's missing one of the things is among the first 90 people, the last 10 people must have one of everything. And this is the least possible because you only let each person in 1-90 lack one thing.Chi Meson said:
That was said by Edwin G. Boring in 1921:Evo said:
yomamma said:
mensa.com said:
Assuming the scores take the form of a perfect normal curve, the 98th percentile would be a score of 131 or above on a Wechsler test (standard deviation = 15) or a score of 133 or above on a Stanford Binet test (standard deviation = 16).*Kia* said:
okay then...*Kia* said:
UK Mensa does group testing with the Cattell IQ test. The Cattell has a standard deviation of 24, instead of the more typical 15 or 16. At a standard deviation of 24, an IQ score of 135 is not sufficient for entrance into Mensa. You would need an IQ score of 148.yomamma said:
daleg said:
hmm... y'know, if you've got one of those W bumper stickers you could just pull it off and stick it back on upside down.Chi Meson said:
Well first off, apart from being a useful tool in self appraisement it's not a bad thing to have on your CV and secondly it presents members with an opportunity to socialise with other members of the club with whom they have something in common. British Mensa organises regular social get-togethers at both local and national level for those who wish to participate and also hosts SIGs (special interest groups) so if you are looking to correspond with other people about building model aircraft for example, it is easy to do; although this capability is probably largely redundant with the predominance of the internet these days.daleg said:
I have never taken an IQ test, but I doubt that I would be held out of mensa. I got a 1530 on the SAT's which is well over the 99th percentile. There are probably people who complain about mensa just out of soreness, but that doesn't mean that is always the reason, even when the person complaining is below the requirements. Even the one practical function you gave for belonging to mensa is better served by the internet. Actually, probably much better served because if you want to build an airplane, most of the people you will meet at mensa do not know how to build one. They could be ESL teachers, for instance.Art said:
Art said:Unfortunately Mensa always seems to attract a lot of negative comments from non-members who see it as an elitist organisation although it seems these negative comments emanate far more rarely from people who fulfil the membership requirements.
