Jumping box with a spring and mass inside

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a mass M box containing a massless spring with an elastic constant k and a mass m attached to a wire. When the wire breaks, the challenge is to determine the deformation b of the spring as the box jumps. The key insight is that the spring stretches initially and then compresses as mass m accelerates upwards, leading to the conclusion that b must exceed (M + 2m)g/k. Participants emphasize the importance of showing work in problem-solving and suggest using hints to guide the solution process. The conversation highlights the need for a clear understanding of the forces at play in this dynamic scenario.
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Homework Statement


Inside a mass M box, over a horizontal floor, there are a massless spring of elastic constant k, fixed to a body of mass m. That body is trapped to a wire in the bottom of the box. After the wire breaks the box will jump with which deformation b of the spring?

Homework Equations


F=m.g
F=k.b

The Attempt at a Solution


I know the answer is that below but i just can't think how would I get to it.
b > (M + 2m)g/k.
 

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Hi Zeor137. I think what happens is that in the situation shown, the spring is stretched. When the wire is cut, the mass m accelerates upwards until the spring becomes compressed by almost as much as it had been stretched (less an allowance for the weight of m).

I haven't worked it out, so I can't be certain that that's the right way to view it.
 
Zeor137 said:

Homework Statement


Inside a mass M box, over a horizontal floor, there are a massless spring of elastic constant k, fixed to a body of mass m. That body is trapped to a wire in the bottom of the box. After the wire breaks the box will jump with which deformation b of the spring?

Homework Equations


F=m.g
F=k.b

The Attempt at a Solution


I know the answer is that below but i just can't think how would I get to it.
b > (M + 2m)g/k.

Welcome to the PF. Please use NO's hint to help you work this problem. We do not allow posts here where you do not show your work toward a solution.
 
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