Pulled Over Twice in One Day: My Red Mitsubishi 3000GT Story

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The discussion revolves around experiences with traffic stops, particularly focusing on the perception that red sports cars attract more attention from law enforcement. The original poster shares their experience of being pulled over twice in one day while driving a red Mitsubishi 3000GT, despite only slightly exceeding speed limits. They express frustration over being targeted, suggesting that red sports cars may be unfairly singled out by police. Other participants contribute anecdotes, noting that they have experienced similar issues with red cars, while others argue that factors like driver behavior, age, and vehicle type also play significant roles in being pulled over. The conversation touches on the idea that red cars are more noticeable and may be associated with speeding, leading to a higher likelihood of traffic stops. Some participants challenge the notion that color alone determines the frequency of tickets, suggesting that driving habits and the context of the situation are equally important. Overall, the thread highlights a mix of personal experiences and opinions regarding the relationship between car color, type, and law enforcement interactions.
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I just bought a red mitsubishi 3000gt and got pulled over twice in one day, 15 minutes apart. My friend just got pulled over in it yesterday. Mine were for going 68 in a 60 (with the flow of traffic) on the way to the beach and when we were pulling onto the beach and going 18 miles an hour, the speed limit was 15. The beach constable said we looked like we were going too fast.. Got off both with a warning though. My friend wasn't so lucky yesterday and got a ticket for his. Can't wait to see how many more times I get pulled over before I sell it in March. Last time I buy a red sportscar.
 
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Do red sportscars not have a speedometer? I don't see why the problem is with the car.
 
leroyjenkens said:
Do red sportscars not have a speedometer? I don't see why the problem is with the car.

No, he's got a point. I could do 68 in a 60 zone or 18 in a 15 zone till the cows came home and I would not be pulled over in my non-red non-sportscar.
 
leroyjenkens said:
Do red sportscars not have a speedometer? I don't see why the problem is with the car.

The flow of traffic here is usally doing at least 10 over the speed limit and I haven't seen many people pulled over. Cops just like targeting sportscars for some reason. Maybe they look like they are going faster than they really are like the beach cop thought. A couple of people I work with call it my gangster car since they imagine gangsters driving it or something, maybe the cops think the same thing. :smile: I don't know what the reason is but I was never pulled over in my life before this. And there was definitely no reason for them to pull me over on the beach. I'll keep count of how many times I get pulled over and give an update in march.
 
When I owned a Nissan 240 SX, I got pulled over for ridiculously low "over the limit" speeds. And mine wasn't even red! Generally, if you get pulled over for 7mph or less, you won't get a ticket, because the judge would just throw them out and give the cops hell.

Now, I drive a sleek but chunky little SUV, and met a town cop today doing about 65 in a 55. Not even a flash of a light or a scolding blip a siren. He just kept on keepin' on.
 
turbo-1 said:
Now, I drive a sleek but chunky little SUV, and met a town cop today doing about 65 in a 55. Not even a flash of a light or a scolding blip a siren. He just kept on keepin' on.

Knowing your neck of woods cop is your second cousin and hopes for the next batch of your habanero relish, so he won't take unnecesary risks.
 
Borek said:
Knowing your neck of woods cop is your second cousin and hopes for the next batch of your habanero relish, so he won't take unnecesary risks.
Most of them are older, and have no more influence. My cousin's husband is retired as local chief of police in our old town, another cousin's husband is retired as Deputy Sheriff, my little brother's father-in-law is retired as chief of the next-largest town, my wife's cousin's husband has retired as chief of the Maine Warden Service... I have a third-cousin who is a trooper, and my retired warden buddy's son is a warden posted far from here. No favoritism here! Nope!

I should probably start carrying chili relishes and pickles in my vehicles, though. When a cop asks what I'm doing, I could say that I was (inadvertently) rushing to an evaluation, hoping to sell my stuff, and offer to "give" him or her a sample. Could be a plan...
 
leroyjenkens said:
Do red sportscars not have a speedometer? I don't see why the problem is with the car.

I've heard people rattle off statistics about red cars having more violations. The reasoning is because they catch attention and set a mood from the officer's perspective. Never seen any research, of course.
 
turbo-1 said:
I should probably start carrying chili relishes and pickles in my vehicles, though. When a cop asks what I'm doing, I could say that I was (inadvertently) rushing to an evaluation, hoping to sell my stuff, and offer to "give" him or her a sample. Could be a plan...

What are regulations about carrying a weapon in Maine?
 
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Borek said:
What are regulations about carrying a weapon in Maine?
I'd have to get a permit to carry loaded handguns in a vehicle, but there are no laws against chili relishes. Hmm.
 
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Pythagorean said:
I've heard people rattle off statistics about red cars having more violations. The reasoning is because they catch attention and set a mood from the officer's perspective. Never seen any research, of course.

My personal experience:
Red sports car: I tended to speed and got lots of tickets.
Red SUV: Didn't drive as fast but, still got occasional tickets.
Silver Prius: No tickets in three years.

What I found really interesting is that I got zero tickets in the SUV when I was a volunteer fireman and had a light bar on top.
 
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Your problem is not that it's red, it's that it's a foreign make.

I've been driving a red Corvette since January, and I have not been pulled over even once yet. It's a massive hit among tweens, but cops tend to ignore me.
 
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Borg said:
My personal experience:
Red sports car: I tended to speed and got lots of tickets.
Red SUV: Didn't drive as fast but, still got occasional tickets.
Silver Prius: No tickets in three years.

What I found really interesting is that I got zero tickets in the SUV when I was a volunteer fireman and had a light bar on top.

Yeah, that makes sense. Makes you look like a responsible, authority figure.

They say white is the best for avoiding tickets. If you really want to make sure you never get pulled over, get one of those "I support my State Troopers" bumper stickers. Not sure if you have to make a donation to get those or what, but they work wonders.
 
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Pythagorean said:
Yeah, that makes sense. Makes you look like a responsible, authority figure.

They say white is the best for avoiding tickets. If you really want to make sure you never get pulled over, get one of those "I support my State Troopers" bumper stickers. Not sure if you have to make a donation to get those or what, but they work wonders.

Or get a http://www.seattlepi.com/specials/undueinfluence/326602_favorsbear07.html" .
 
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No, he's got a point. I could do 68 in a 60 zone or 18 in a 15 zone till the cows came home and I would not be pulled over in my non-red non-sportscar.
Does that mean no one gets pulled over for going 8 over except red sportscars?
I have a friend who got pulled over for going 7 over and for going 8 over and doesn't drive a red sportscar. If you're speeding, the consequence is a cop may pull you over. Blaming the car makes as much sense as blaming the weather.
The flow of traffic here is usally doing at least 10 over the speed limit and I haven't seen many people pulled over.
Then they have a lot of people to choose from. You're just the one they caught.
 
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leroyjenkens said:
Does that mean no one gets pulled over for going 8 over except red sportscars?
No, it means it tends to happen more with red sportcars. I think you knew that.

leroyjenkens said:
I have a friend who got pulled over for going 7 over and for going 8 over and doesn't drive a red sportscar. If you're speeding, the consequence is a cop may pull you over. Blaming the car makes as much sense as blaming the weather.
And when your friend did the same 7 in a different car, what happened? Oh right, you have no comparison.

Read Borg's post 11.

leroyjenkens said:
Then they have a lot of people to choose from. You're just the one they caught.
Precisely. They have a lot of people to choose from. And yet they tend to catch the ones in the red sportscars.
 
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leroyjenkens said:
Does that mean no one gets pulled over for going 8 over except red sportscars?
I have a friend who got pulled over for going 7 over and for going 8 over and doesn't drive a red sportscar. If you're speeding, the consequence is a cop may pull you over. Blaming the car makes as much sense as blaming the weather.

Then they have a lot of people to choose from. You're just the one they caught.

Yeah, but we already know from your other posts that you suck at driving and have no idea what you are talking about anyway.
 
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leroyjenkens said:
Does that mean no one gets pulled over for going 8 over except red sportscars?
I have a friend who got pulled over for going 7 over and for going 8 over and doesn't drive a red sportscar. If you're speeding, the consequence is a cop may pull you over. Blaming the car makes as much sense as blaming the weather.

Then they have a lot of people to choose from. You're just the one they caught.

Bahahahah... are you playing devils advocate or are you serious here.. hmm.
 
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Saladsamurai said:
Yeah, but we already know from your other posts that you suck at driving and have no idea what you are talking about anyway.
:smile::smile::smile::smile::smile: I was trying to think of something like that myself. :smile::smile:

It's like that commercial on TV:
"...and you know who's in the lane right next to me? Yep! leroyjenkins!"
"No way!"
"Way!"
 
  • #20
This thread begs the question: do babes get let off more than guys?
 
  • #21
Loren Booda said:
This thread begs the question: do babes get let off more than guys?

Well I wouldn't call myself a babe lol, but all my life I've struggled with a strong tendency to drive like a crazed maniac. When I was in college and drove clunkers, I got pulled over and warned several times.

Eventually I got a steady job and could afford a nicer car (Subaru WRX :!)). In that car, I never got pulled over.

Despite my heavy right foot, I've never got a speeding ticket knock on wood.
 
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No, it means it tends to happen more with red sportcars. I think you knew that.
What you said is you wouldn't get a ticket for going 8 over in a non-red non-sportscar. Obviously it happens to other people, which means you MAY also get one too.
And when your friend did the same 7 in a different car, what happened? Oh right, you have no comparison.
So I'm supposed to have 2 different realities running concurrently with the only variable being my friend driving 2 different cars, otherwise my argument invalid?
Read Borg's post 11.
I did. He said he tended to speed in his red sportscar and got lots of tickets. He sped and got tickets. How can you blame the car for that? He said he didn't get any tickets in his silver Prius, but he also didn't say he sped in his silver Prius. I think you may have added that part in your head.
Precisely. They have a lot of people to choose from. And yet they tend to catch the ones in the red sportscars.
So on that stretch of road, red sportscars get pulled over often? Or are you using the plural sportscars in reference to the one red sportscar that we know was pulled over there?
On that specific stretch of road, which is what he and I were discussing, people often speed. He gets pulled over in his red sportscar, and from that, you deduce that the cops tend to target red sportscars?
Yeah, but we already know from your other posts that you suck at driving and have no idea what you are talking about anyway.
Does this guy get a free pass to break the rules?
Bahahahah... are you playing devils advocate or are you serious here.. hmm.
Why wouldn't I be? Is there a gaping hole in my logic that you'd like to inform me about?
 
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leroyjenkens said:
So I'm supposed to have 2 different realities running concurrently with the only variable being my friend driving 2 different cars, otherwise my argument invalid?
Are you bring deliberately obtuse?
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Are you bring deliberately obtuse?

He's basically just saying that he believes that car colour and getting tickets is a myth or an urban legend. I've never seen any studies and highly doubt they occur... I have a feeling it has more to do with the fact that the OP would pressumably be a younger male driving a sportscar rather... maybe the colour contributes to him getting noticed, maybe it's loud, maybe his music attracts attention... who really knows right?
 
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Sorry! said:
He's basically just saying that he believes that car colour and getting tickets is a myth or an urban legend. I've never seen any studies and highly doubt they occur... I have a feeling it has more to do with the fact that the OP would pressumably be a younger male driving a sportscar rather... maybe the colour contributes to him getting noticed, mayibe it's loud, maybe his music attracts attention... who really knows right?
He's basically saying that, yes; he's just doing a really bad job of it.

As for your hypothesis, it seems odd to me that

1] you would accept that the cops are possibly singling him out, you've just picked a different factor, namely his age & gender as opposed to his car's model and colour. Why would reject one and accept the other? I would have thought you'd unilateraly reject the idea of cops being biased in their selection.

2] you would think it plausible that a cop would ignore something so easily recognizable at a distance as the colour of the car, yet see through the windshield and be able to identify the gender and age of the driver. It seems to me a pretty good assumption that a cop decides he is going to stop a car when the car is still quite far away.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
He's basically saying that, yes; he's just doing a really bad job of it.

As for your hypothesis, it seems odd to me that

1] you would accept that the cops are possibly singling him out, you've just picked a different factor, namely his age & gender as opposed to his car's model and colour. Why would reject one and accept the other? I would have thought you'd unilateraly reject the idea of cops being biased in their selection.

2] you would think it plausible that a cop would ignore something so easily recognizable at a distance as the colour of the car, yet see through the windshield and be able to identify the gender and age of the driver. It seems to me a pretty good assumption that a cop decides he is going to stop a car when the car is still quite far away.

Ah that's not what I was saying... the make of the car definitely does impact what's going on I said that in my post. Other contributing factors of course would be that he's a young male, possibly the colour of the car allows him to be more noticable but maybe the cop just saw his car, or heard the engine, or heard his music etc. etc. I do agree that he was probably singled out from the 'herd' so to speak based on particular factors but to jump to the conclusion that 'red sportscars' get pulled over more often is a bit premature in my opinion. As well you would be surprised at how well the cops can spot the driver of a car lol. I was going to talk about how race can also influence getting tickets and even how it influences being able to beat the ticket after you get it but it's apparently 'racially insensitive' to talk about that stuff.
 
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Are you bring deliberately obtuse?
I'd be ashamed if I resorted to this.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Are you bring deliberately obtuse?
Of course he is.

leroyjenkens said:
Does that mean no one gets pulled over for going 8 over except red sportscars?
I have a friend who got pulled over for going 7 over and for going 8 over and doesn't drive a red sportscar.

And you did not specify the speed limit. 7 or 8 over in a 15 or 20 mph zone IS a lot and would get almost anyone a ticket. 3 over in a 15 mph zone is within a fairly normal range of variation just in speedometer accuracy. 8 over in a 60 mph zone is just normal keeping up with traffic.

Of course, your friend may have fallen into that OTHER category of cop magnets...young male.

I do think red cars are a bigger target. My only speeding ticket and one other time pulled over and got off with a warning were both when I owned a red car (it wasn't even a sports car, just a Focus). Neither time was I going very much over the limit. My other cars have been white, black and light blue. I won't count the white one, because that was my first car and aside from still being an overly cautious driver then, I lived in an area with such traffic congestion it was literally impossible to speed. But, my driving habits have been fairly consistent with the black, red and light blue cars. I owned the red car for the shortest amount of time too, so the odds would be more likely that if I was just getting my fair share of being picked from the crowd, I'd have been ticketed more in the black or blue cars than the red one.
 
  • #29
leroyjenkens said:
Does this guy get a free pass to break the rules?
Which rule did I break? It's nothing personal, but you do suck at driving. Don't worry, it will come with time :wink:

DaveC426913 said:
Are you bring deliberately obtuse?

Well, he is definitely not acute and we can all agree that he is not right.
 
  • #30
One day when returning east from a consulting job in NY state, I got pulled over on the Massachusetts turnpike. I was in the right lane, traveling with the flow of traffic, and a trooper standing under an overpass with a radar gun motioned me to the breakdown lane. There was a line of at least a dozen cars there, waiting to get written up. When they got to me, I told the trooper that I was in the travel lane, getting passed on the left, and that it pretty much stunk that every car getting ticketed had out-of-state plates. Not a Mass plate among 'em. He just grinned at me and said we're cracking down on speeders and we can't pull over everybody.

Just a little revenue-boost for our neighbor to the south. BTW, I was driving a late-model maroon Crown Victoria, so it's not they were targeting the vehicle nor the driver - just the license plates. ME, NH, NY, etc were all well-represented in the line-up.
 
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turbo-1 said:
One day when returning east from a consulting job in NY state, I got pulled over on the Massachusetts turnpike. I was in the right lane, traveling with the flow of traffic, and a trooper standing under an overpass with a radar gun motioned me to the breakdown lane. There was a line of at least a dozen cars there, waiting to get written up. When they got to me, I told the trooper that I was in the travel lane, getting passed on the left, and that it pretty much stunk that every car getting ticketed had out-of-state plates. Not a Mass plate among 'em. He just grinned at me and said we're cracking down on speeders and we can't pull over everybody.

Just a little revenue-boost for our neighbor to the south. BTW, I was driving a late-model maroon Crown Victoria, so it's not they were targeting the vehicle nor the driver - just the license plates. ME, NH, NY, etc were all well-represented in the line-up.

Yep, that happens in NJ and OH too (probably every other state as well).

OH especially likes to target MI drivers, because the two states don't have a reciprocal agreement on traffic violations. That means the MI drivers have to pay their ticket then and there and can only hope for reimbursement if they win the fight...and of course, OH knows that 99% of the time, the MI driver isn't going to waste more time and money traveling back to fight the ticket, because MI never gets any record of the violation and they won't get any points on their license anyway. It's quite a racket.

In NJ, we used to call it an out-of-state highway tax. Someone could be getting passed by every other car on the road, but if they had an out-of-state plate, they'd be the one pulled over. My step-brother lives in FL, and he's been pulled over on the flimsiest of excuses. Like many other states, FL only has one license plate on the rear of the car. He got pulled over for not having a license plate on the front. :rolleyes: You KNOW the cop was just hoping to find something else when he pulled him over, because they aren't so stupid not to know what states have one vs. two plates.
 
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Of course he is.
I could say the same about the two of you, but intead, I choose to actually argue my point instead of assuming it's the gospel truth and belittling anyone who disagrees with it.
And you did not specify the speed limit. 7 or 8 over in a 15 or 20 mph zone IS a lot and would get almost anyone a ticket. 3 over in a 15 mph zone is within a fairly normal range of variation just in speedometer accuracy. 8 over in a 60 mph zone is just normal keeping up with traffic.
He was on the highway. I don't know the speed limit, but it's not 15 or 20.
Of course, your friend may have fallen into that OTHER category of cop magnets...young male.
So could the TS.
Which rule did I break?
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What you said is definitely breaking the rules, and I reported you for it.
It's nothing personal, but you do suck at driving.
Care to back up anything you say with facts, or do you just want to continue to make unfounded childish remarks? I need to know if you're ever going to say something constructive, so I know if I should just go ahead and ignore you.
 
  • #33
Would you all stop sniping like a bunch of petty... <insert insult here>.

The answer to this thread is simple.

If you speed, you have a change of getting caught and busted. Please note that almost everyone speeds from time to time.
If you drive a red foreign sports car, you are essentially wearing a sign with large aggressive letters saying 'PULL ME OVER'. Red is associated with speed (there is a common joke amongst my engineering firends that when you paint somethin on your car red it gives you 10 extra brake hp).

That is all there is to it, that is the way of things.
 
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leroyjenkens said:
...I choose to actually argue my point instead of assuming it's the gospel truth and belittling anyone who disagrees with it.
No one is belittling you because they disagree. The trouble is that your arguments are non sequitur - they do not follow.

In post 15 and again in post 22, you take what what said by someone else and extrapolate to an absurd result. One does not follow from the other.

The apparent belittlement comes when this behaviour seems consistent. Is it not unreasonable to ask if you are aware of it. Generally we try to treat almost all arguments respectfully, but there is always the possibility that someone is joking, tongue-in-cheek or is simply having fun trolling. When a nonconstructive behaviour starts repeating, it's not unreasonable to call somoene out on it.

OK, so you're not aware of it.
 
  • #35
xxChrisxx said:
Would you all stop sniping like a bunch of petty... <insert insult here>.

The answer to this thread is simple.

If you speed, you have a change of getting caught and busted. Please note that almost everyone speeds from time to time.
If you drive a red foreign sports car, you are essentially wearing a sign with large aggressive letters saying 'PULL ME OVER'. Red is associated with speed (there is a common joke amongst my engineering firends that when you paint somethin on your car red it gives you 10 extra brake hp).

That is all there is to it, that is the way of things.
For all your judgementalism, you didn't provide an answer.

Do red sportscars get pulled over more?
 
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DaveC426913 said:
For all your judgementalism, you didn't provide an answer.

Do red sportscars get pulled over more?

Yes, now you could ask that I provide some study to back this up, but there really would be no point, there will be ones showing it's true and others showing its false.

A bright red loud sportscar brings attention to itsself more than an old ladymobile. Bringing attention to yourself when you are doing something illegal will increase the chances of you getting caught. Also I do suspect that in this case it's not the fact its just red, its the fact it's a foreign car too.

You just need to look at insurance quotes, red cars ALWAYS cost more to insure (in the UK) especially if its a 'hot' model. A red Golf GTI vs a black Golf GTI costs about 5%-10% more to insure.
 
  • #37
xxChrisxx said:
Yes, now you could ask that I provide some study to back this up, but there really would be no point, there will be ones showing it's true and others showing its false.

A bright red loud sportscar brings attention to itsself more than an old ladymobile. Bringing attention to yourself when you are doing something illegal will increase the chances of you getting caught. Also I do suspect that in this case it's not the fact its just red, its the fact it's a foreign car too.

Yes, we all get the hypothesis. You are adding nothing new there.

You are insisting the answer is simple.

So what is it? You don't have any more of an answer than the rest of us.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Yes, we all get the hypothesis. You are adding nothing new there.

You are insisting the answer is simple.

So what is it? You don't have any more of an answer than the rest of us.

You are never going to conclusively prove it either way.
 
  • #39
xxChrisxx said:
You are never going to conclusively prove it either way.

Then why did you so arrogantly claim the answer is simple?
 
  • #40
DaveC426913 said:
Then why did you so arrogantly claim the answer is simple?

Experience. Non scientific, but it works.

Red cars tend get pulled/stolen/etc etc more often than others. Red also tends to be associated with speed.
 
  • #41
xxChrisxx said:
Experience. Non scientific, but it works.

Red cars tend get pulled/stolen/etc etc more often than others. Red also tends to be associated with speed.

So, you're simply restating what the rest of us have been struggling with but pretending you're enlightening us. OK.
 
  • #42
No one is belittling you because they disagree. The trouble is that your arguments are non sequitur - they do not follow.

In post 15 and again in post 22, you take what what said by someone else and extrapolate to an absurd result. One does not follow from the other.
Can you quote the exact instance of where I did that?
This just sounds like a cop out.
The apparent belittlement comes when this behaviour seems consistent. Is it not unreasonable to ask if you are aware of it. Generally we try to treat almost all arguments respectfully, but there is always the possibility that someone is joking, tongue-in-cheek or is simply having fun trolling. When a nonconstructive behaviour starts repeating, it's not unreasonable to call somoene out on it.

OK, so you're not aware of it.
The belittlement comes from immaturity. There's no reason to belittle somebody because they disagree with you. If you think they're wrong, prove them wrong. Calling them names does nothing constructive, it's just an outlet for your frustration.
 
  • #43
DaveC426913 said:
So, you're simply restating what the rest of us have been struggling with but pretending you're enlightening us. OK.

I'm saying you are all arguing to no end as there will be no conclusive proof either way. It's therefore pointless having an argument about it. This thread did decend into argument as opposed to discussion.
 
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leroyjenkens said:
Can you quote the exact instance of where I did that?
This just sounds like a cop out.
Something about concurrent realities. It went downhll from there - everytime you drew another absurd conclusion from what someone else had stated.
leroyjenkens said:
The belittlement comes from immaturity. There's no reason to belittle somebody because they disagree with you. If you think they're wrong, prove them wrong. Calling them names does nothing constructive, it's just an outlet for your frustration.
No, the criticism comes from the fact that, in https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=350500", you freely admitted that you drive without any consideration for other vehicles on the road. Basically, you freely admitted to driving like a jerk. Why are you now complaining that your chickens have come home to roost?

You make it very difficult to take you seriously when
a] you show no understanding of group dynamics like driving (SaladSamurai's complaint)
b] you act (either advertantly or inadvertantly) obtuse about others' points about driving (my complaint).
 
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  • #45
Something about concurrent realities. It went downhll from there - everytime you drew another absurd conclusion from what someone else had stated.
That was hyperbole to prove a point. How was it a non sequitur? And what else did I say that was an absurd conclusion? Don't just pooh-pooh everything I say. It seems like anything you encounter that you can't refute, you automatically conclude it's not worth refuting. That's not a respectable strategy and it's very transparent.
No, the criticism comes from the fact that, in an older thread on driving habits
What does that have to do with this thread?
you freely admitted that you drive without any consideration for other vehicles on the road.
Basically, you freely admitted to driving like a jerk.
I did not. That's your interpretation. Apparently anyone who drives differently from the way you think they should is driving like a jerk.
Why are you now complaining that your chickens have come home to roost?
I'm complaining that you can't discuss the issue at hand. How I drive has nothing to do with this thread, so bringing that up is irrelevant.
You make it very difficult to take you seriously when
a] you show no understanding of group dynamics like driving (SaladSamurai's complaint)
b] you act (either advertantly or inadvertantly) obtuse about others' points about driving (my complaint).
It has nothing to do with taking me seriously. This whole spiel you're putting on right now is just a distraction from the matter at hand. You're hijacking the thread.
 
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:bugeye:
 
  • #47
Do you two want to step outside and have a fight about this?
 
  • #48
This isn't a fight. leroy's discussion style simply needs some work if he's to be taken seriously. I'm just not being very patient about it.
 
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Top 10 makes/models most likely to be ticketed for speeding (100% - the average rate for all cars):

Hummer H2/H3 463%
Scion tC 460%
Scion XB 403%
Mercedes Benz CLK63 AMG 397%
Toyota Solara Coupe 306%
Mercedes Benz CLS63 AMG 276%
Scion XA 275%
Subaru Outback 266%
Audi A4 264%
Toyota Matrix 264%

Nine out of ten are foreign makes. Four are common teenager rides. Only two are sport cars.

Conversely, eight out of ten on "the least ticketed" list are domestics, one is a Jaguar (up until recently owned by Ford), and one is Mazda (also partially owned by Ford). The #1 on the least ticketed list, Jaguar XJ, comes with a 400 hp V-8 and would rip the Mitsu 3000GT to shreds in a straight line.
 
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hamster143 said:
Top 10 makes/models most likely to be ticketed for speeding (100% - the average rate for all cars):

Hummer H2/H3 463%
Scion tC 460%
Scion XB 403%
Mercedes Benz CLK63 AMG 397%
Toyota Solara Coupe 306%
Mercedes Benz CLS63 AMG 276%
Scion XA 275%
Subaru Outback 266%
Audi A4 264%
Toyota Matrix 264%

Nine out of ten are foreign makes. Four are common teenager rides. Only two are sport cars.

Conversely, eight out of ten on "the least ticketed" list are domestics, one is a Jaguar (up until recently owned by Ford), and one is Mazda (also partially owned by Ford). The #1 on the least ticketed list, Jaguar XJ, comes with a 400 hp V-8 and would rip the Mitsu 3000GT to shreds in a straight line.

I'm curious. Do you have citation or a link to a site where you got this information from? You don't just wander around having this stuff memorised, do you? :smile:
 
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