Kinematics of a thrown rock. Calculate speed

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A rock is thrown at 25 m/s at a 50-degree angle, and the discussion centers on calculating the time it takes for the rock to reach angles of +30 and -30 degrees from the horizontal. The correct times are determined to be 1.01 seconds and 2.91 seconds. Participants discuss the vector equations for motion, noting the importance of correctly applying the formulas for vertical and horizontal components. There is a focus on problem-solving without calculators, emphasizing learning through engagement rather than simply providing answers. The conversation highlights the challenges of physics calculations and the need for accurate application of gravitational effects.
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A rock is thrown at 25 m/s in a 50 degree angle (horizontal). At what time will the speed reach an angle of + / - 30 degree (horizontal) ??

answer is 1.01s and 2.91s

thx u
 
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Pls Post your try
Hint:Write vector Equation for motion
 
lol...
 
lol.. posted at wrong place

my try:

Vx = Vxcos Theta
= 25cos50
= 16.07 m/s

Vy = Vysin(theta)t
= (25sin50)t - 4.9t²
= 19.15t - 4.9t²


Vy / Vx = tan30

therefore.. 4.9t² - 19.15t + 9.28 = 0... doesn't give the right answer :( what Do I do wrong??
 
is that equation possible to-do without a Calculator ?
 
obvs. not.. look at the answers.. 1.01 & 2.91 s..
If u can get those numbers without a calculator, good luck
 
Gimme a min on that one ;)...
 
You have applied wrong formula for vy
 
I really appreciate your help.. but would you mind explaining instead of giving hints?
 
  • #10
dang (Should have payed attention to my math teacher...)LOL


well i know there's gravity 9.8m/s, air friction,

so vector is 25m/s at 50(Deg)angle
how long it would take for 30(Deg)angle hmmm...
 
  • #11
and the formula I applied is actually Vy = Vysin(theta)t - gt²/2

I just forgot the last part
 
  • #12
didnt your mom tell you not to use Calculators in math ?
 
  • #13
gimme 10mins tops and all figure out the Anwser without a Calculator ;)
 
  • #14
Here u have given your try i appreciate and on this network which is an interactive one.

we try to inculcate the habit of problem solving by the poster itself
giving u the answer would defy the process of learning

Still you are welcomed and Pls wait while i give u complete detail
 
  • #15
k.. anyone help?
 
  • #16
ok thanks a bunch
 
  • #17
Sorry DR33 but i think he means your on your own...:(
 
  • #18
v_x=25\cos{\theta}=25\cos50
v_y=25\sin50 - 9.8t

Now from gien pro
\frac{v_y}{v_x}=\pm tan30
 
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  • #19
i got rejected in a Physics class, seriouly i would not comment on it but, its not helping someone who is dedicating his time on this forum for help... :|
 
  • #20
ok so therefore

Vx = 16,07 m/s
Vy = 19.15 - 4.9t

Vx / Vy = tan30... solve for t..

doesnt give the right answer :((

answers are 1.01 and 2.91
 
  • #21
n/m, i used 4.9..

wow, thanks man
I appreciate

l8er
 
  • #22
Originally posted by DR33
ok so therefore

Vx = 16,07 m/s
Vy = 19.15 - 4.9t

Vx / Vy = tan30... solve for t..

doesnt give the right answer :((

answers are 1.01 and 2.91

What look at it again it is not 4.9 its 9.8
 
  • #23
Please post further homework help questions here, in the homework help forum -- not in the general physics forum. Thank you.

- Warren
 
  • #24
um were did my perpetual motion thread go ? (Sorry i am new)
 
  • #25
It went into the Theory Development forum, where it belongs.

- Warren
 
  • #26
ok thx, but its not a theory it works ;)
 
  • #27
Dont worry u will enjoy that section more than anything
 
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