Kinetic Friction of sliding down a pole

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A firefighter weighing 812 N is sliding down a pole with an acceleration of 1.45 m/s², prompting a discussion on calculating the frictional force acting on her. The key forces involved are gravity and friction, and Newton's second law (F = ma) is applied to determine the net force. The firefighter's mass is calculated as approximately 82.86 kg, leading to a net force of 120.14 N due to her acceleration. However, the frictional force must be expressed in the context of the total forces acting on her, including her weight. The discussion emphasizes careful consideration of the signs when summing forces to find the unknown friction force.
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Homework Statement


A firefighter whose weight is 812 N is sliding down a vertical pole, her speed increasing at the rate of 1.45 m/s2. Gravity and friction are the two significant forces acting on her. What is the magnitude of the frictional force?


Homework Equations


Fk = ukFn
uk = coefficient of kinetic friction


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure what the coefficient of KF should be so I just tried ..
812*1.45 = 1177.4
I'm not sure how to incorporate the gravity and friction into the equation.
 
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lacar213 said:
I'm not sure what the coefficient of KF should be so I just tried ..
You're not given the coefficient of friction. Luckily you won't need it--you'll figure out the friction force another way.
812*1.45 = 1177.4
I'm not sure how to incorporate the gravity and friction into the equation.
Gravity and friction are the two forces acting on the firefighter. You are given her acceleration. Apply Newton's 2nd law: ∑ F = ma

(What's the firefighter's mass?)
 
OK ...
F = ma
mass -> 812 N/9.8 = 82.8571 kg
F = (82.8571)(1.45)
F = 120.143 N

Is it that simple?
 
lacar213 said:
F = ma
mass -> 812 N/9.8 = 82.8571 kg
Good.
F = (82.8571)(1.45)
F = 120.143 N

Is it that simple?
Not that simple, but almost. The "F" in F = ma stands for the net force acting on the object. Express the net force in terms of the actual forces acting on the firefighter (weight and friction) by adding those forces up. (∑ F means the sum of the forces.) Then you can solve for the unknown friction force.

Hint: Careful with signs.
 
Would the next step be to multiple her weight and gravity? Then add that net force to 120.143 N?

F = (82.8571)(9.8) = 812 N - but that's the weight already given??
120+812 = 932.143
 
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