Klein-Gordon Momentum Question

In summary, the conversation discusses the definition of the momentum operator in terms of the KG field and operators a_n and a_n^{\dagger}. The momentum operator is derived and simplified, but the method of dealing with time derivatives is uncertain. Suggestions are made to use the classical formula for momentum and to rewrite the sums in the KG field as a single sum. The reality condition for the KG field is also mentioned.
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Dear all, I'd be very grateful for some help on this question:

"The momentum operator is defined by: [tex] \displaystyle P = - \int_{0}^{L} dz \left(\frac{\partial \phi}{\partial t}\right) \left( \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial z} \right) [/tex]

Show that P can be written in terms of the operators [tex] a_n [/tex] and [tex] a^{\dagger}_n [/tex] as:

[tex] \displaystyle P = \sum_{n} k_n a_n^{\dagger} a_n [/tex] "

The KG field is given by: [tex] \displaystyle \phi(t,z) = \sum_{n} \frac{1}{\sqrt{2E_n L}} \left[a_n e^{-i(E_n t - k_n z)} + a^{\dagger}_n e^{+i(E_n t - k_n z)} \right] [/tex]

The following relations are true:
[tex] \displaystyle k_n = \frac{2 \pi n}{L} \;;\; \left[a_n, a_m^{\dagger} \right] = \delta_{nm} \;;\; \left[a_n, a_m \right] = \left[a_n^{\dagger}, a_m^{\dagger} \right] = 0 [/tex]

and [tex] E_n^2 = k_n^2 + m^2 [/tex]

[tex]\displaystyle \int_{0}^{L} dz e^{iz(k_n-k_m)} = L \delta_{nm} [/tex]

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I've fed all this information into the definition of the momentum operator and have the result:

[tex] \displaystyle P = \sum_{n} \frac{k_n}{2} \left[1 + 2 a_n^{\dagger} a_n - a_n a_{-n} - a^{\dagger}_n a^{\dagger}_{-n} \right][/tex]

but I am unsure of how to reduce this down even further.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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How did you deal with the time derivative [tex]\frac{\partial\phi}{\partial t}[/tex]? You should first solve the classical momentum to be a function of [tex]\phi[/tex], the canonical momenta field [tex]\Pi[/tex], and possibly their spatial derivatives but not time derivatives.

You already have the operator [tex]\phi[/tex] written in terms of [tex]a_n[/tex] and [tex]a_n^{\dagger}[/tex]. (I don't think the Heisenberg picture time evolution is relevant now. Operators with fixed time should be enough.) There exists similar formula for the operator [tex]\Pi[/tex]. You get the momentum operator in terms of [tex]a_n[/tex] and [tex]a_n^{\dagger}[/tex] when you substitute the formulas for operators [tex]\phi[/tex] and [tex]\Pi[/tex].
 
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I worked the time derivative out to be:

[tex] \displaystyle \frac{\partial \phi}{\partial t} = - i \sum_n \sqrt{\frac{E_n}{2L}} \left[ a_n e^{-i(E_n t - k_n z)} - a_n^{\dagger} e^{+i(E_n t - k_n z)} \right] [/tex]

Whilst integrating the whole expression I set t = 0 to remove the time dependence (as seems to be the trick played in a few books I've read) and used the orthogonality between the complex exponentials to arrive at were I'm stuck.
 
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I'm not sure what happens when you compute time derivatives of the operators in Heisenberg picture like that. It could be that you can get correct answer, but I wouldn't count on it. If it gives the correct result, IMO it should be proven as a result of its own. Anyway, I would suggest using the classical formula

[tex]
P=-\int dx\; \Pi(x)\nabla\phi(x)
[/tex]

for momentum in start. You get the momentum operator when you promote [tex]\phi[/tex] and [tex]\Pi[/tex] to operators.

You don't struggle with quantization of quantity [tex]\dot{x}[/tex] in single particle QM either. Instead the quantities are written as functions of position [tex]x[/tex] and canonical momenta [tex]p[/tex], and the position and the canonical momenta are promoted to become operators then.
 
  • #5
Whether you use [tex]\Pi[/tex] or [tex]\dot\phi[/tex] I don't think it'll affect the Hamiltonian that you calculate, so I think your method is correct. I don't know if you've made any mistakes getting to that point, however, another useful trick is to rewrite the sums in [tex]\phi[/tex] as a single sum (after getting rid of time dependence), by replacing [tex]a_{n}[/tex] with [tex]a_{-n}[/tex] and factoring out the exponential.

Also, for [tex]\phi[/tex] to be real, I recall that [tex]a_{-n}[/tex] = [tex]a^\dagger_n[/tex], but you'll have to check this, as I'm prone to talking out of my ass =)
 

1. What is the Klein-Gordon momentum equation?

The Klein-Gordon momentum equation is a relativistic equation used in quantum mechanics to describe the momentum of a particle. It is an extension of the classical momentum equation and takes into account the particle's energy and rest mass.

2. How is the Klein-Gordon momentum equation derived?

The Klein-Gordon momentum equation is derived from the Klein-Gordon equation, which is a relativistic wave equation describing the behavior of a quantum particle. The momentum equation is obtained by taking the derivative of the Klein-Gordon equation with respect to time and then applying the operator for momentum.

3. What is the significance of the Klein-Gordon momentum equation?

The Klein-Gordon momentum equation is significant because it allows us to calculate the momentum of a quantum particle in a relativistic framework. It is also used in the study of quantum field theory and is an important tool in understanding the behavior of particles at high energies.

4. Can the Klein-Gordon momentum equation be applied to all particles?

No, the Klein-Gordon momentum equation is only applicable to particles with spin zero, such as scalar particles. It cannot be used for particles with spin 1/2 or 1, which require different equations to describe their momentum.

5. How does the Klein-Gordon momentum equation relate to conservation of momentum?

The Klein-Gordon momentum equation is a manifestation of the conservation of momentum in quantum mechanics. It states that the momentum of a particle is conserved, meaning it cannot be created or destroyed, but can only be transferred between particles in an interaction. This is a fundamental principle in physics and is essential in understanding the behavior of particles.

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