Lagrange equation problem involving disk

In summary, the problem involves a uniform disk with a suspended particle moving in a vertical plane on a rough horizontal rail. The generalized coordinates are the horizontal displacement of the disk's center and the angle between the string and the downward vertical. Lagrange's equation can be obtained for this system, with x being a cyclic coordinate and p_x being the corresponding conserved momentum. The period of small oscillations for the particle can be found using linearization techniques.
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Homework Statement


A uniform disk of mass M and radius a can roll along a rough horizontal rail. A particle of mass m is suspended from the center C of the disk by a light inextensible string b. The whole system moves in a vertical plane through a rail. Take as generalized coordinates x, the horizontal displacement of C, and theta , the angle between the string and the downward vertical. Obtain Lagrange's equation . Show that x is a cyclic coordinate and find the corresponding conserved momentum p_x. Is p_x the horizontal linear momentum of the system?

Given that theta remains small in the motion , find the period of the small oscillations particle.




Homework Equations



Ihave to “linearize” the θ equation, after eliminating derivitives
of x, to get an equation for θ that is effectively simple harmonic motion.
In this case, linearizing means assuming θ and ˙
θ are small, approximat-
ing all of the trigonometric functions up to terms linear in θ, and throwing
out terms quadratic in θ and ˙
θ. Soln.: the period for small oscillations is

q
3M b
.


The Attempt at a Solution



x_1=q_1-F y_1=0 z_1=0
x_2=q_1+a*sin(q_2)-F,y_2=0,z_1=-a*cos(q_2)

Not sure what to do after that
 
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What does it mean when it says, "The whole system moves in a vertical plane through a rail."? What is "through" about in this sentence?

You really did not show any relevant equations, and more importantly, you did not show an attempt at a solution. Yes, you wrote something under that heading, but it is awfully hard to understand what that means, and it looks more like some sort of final result, rather than a process for getting there.

To work this problem, you need to start with a good figure, identify the necessary coordinates, write the kinematic relatiions and the constraint relation(s), and then formulate your equations very carefully. The solution will be more than two lines long, I can assure you.
 

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What is a Lagrange equation problem involving disk?

A Lagrange equation problem involving disk is a mathematical problem that involves finding the equations of motion for a disk that is constrained in its movement. This is done using Lagrange's equations, which are a set of equations that describe the motion of a system based on its potential and kinetic energy.

What are the variables involved in a Lagrange equation problem involving disk?

The variables involved in a Lagrange equation problem involving disk include the mass of the disk, its position and velocity in space, the forces acting on the disk, and the constraints that limit its movement, such as a fixed axis of rotation.

How do you solve a Lagrange equation problem involving disk?

To solve a Lagrange equation problem involving disk, you first need to identify the variables involved and the constraints on the disk's movement. Then, you can use Lagrange's equations to derive the equations of motion for the disk and solve them using calculus and algebraic manipulations.

What are some applications of Lagrange equation problems involving disk?

Lagrange equation problems involving disk have various applications in physics and engineering, such as in analyzing the motion of a spinning top or a pendulum with a rotating disk. They can also be used to model the behavior of gyroscopes and other rotating systems.

What are some challenges of solving a Lagrange equation problem involving disk?

One of the main challenges of solving a Lagrange equation problem involving disk is accurately identifying all the relevant variables and constraints. Additionally, the equations can become quite complex and require advanced mathematical skills and techniques to solve. It is also important to check the physical validity of the solutions obtained.

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