Lagrangian for a rolling disk on horizontal plane

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The discussion centers on the kinetic energy formulation for a disk rolling on a horizontal plane. The correct expression for total kinetic energy (T) includes both translational and rotational components: T = 1/2 (M V^2) + 1/2 (I ω^2), where M is the mass, V is the center of mass velocity, I is the moment of inertia, and ω is the angular velocity about the center of mass. The query arises regarding why some texts only consider the rotational kinetic energy, T = 1/2 (I ω^2), neglecting the translational component. This oversight is noted as a common error in certain educational materials.

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for a disck rolling on a horizontal plane the kinetic energy should be the kinetic energy of the CM of the disk with respect to the origin plus the kinetic energy due to the rotation of the disc about his CM
so T= 1/2 (M V^2) +1/2(I ω^2)
where M is the mass of the disk and V is the velocity of the CM and I is the moment of inertia of the disk and W is the angular velocity about the CM

am i wrong ?
why some books sole this problem for rotational kinetic energy only and ignore the term of kinetic energy that depends on the velocity of the center of mass with respect to the origin
in ohter words they consider T = 1/2 I ω^2 only :(
 
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You would normally have to consider the translational motion also. In which books did you find this so that I can give a look at the problem.
 
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