Lagrangian of 3 masses connected by springs, non-parallel.

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The discussion focuses on modeling the Lagrangian for three masses connected by two springs in a non-linear configuration. The initial Lagrangian for a linear arrangement is straightforward, but complications arise when introducing an angle θ for the second spring. Concerns about the flexing and bending of the springs are highlighted, particularly regarding how this affects the angles between the masses. Using vectors is suggested as a potential solution, but there are uncertainties about whether they can adequately represent the necessary information related to Young's modulus. The challenge lies in the variable angles between the masses due to the springs' flexing, despite the constant angle of intersection at the central mass.
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Writing the Lagrangian for 3 masses and 2 springs in a line is easy.

KE=1/2(m*v^2)

L=KE(m1)+k/2(l1-(x2-x1))^2+KE(m2)+k2/2[L2-(x3-x2)]^2+KE(m3)

However, I wish to model non-linear linkages of the above 3 masses and 2 springs.

Suppose that the second spring (m2-m3) is angle θ away from the axis of the first spring (m1-m2).

I am quite daunted by the flexing or bending of the springs.
 
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Daley192303 said:
Writing the Lagrangian for 3 masses and 2 springs in a line is easy.

KE=1/2(m*v^2)

L=KE(m1)+k/2(l1-(x2-x1))^2+KE(m2)+k2/2[L2-(x3-x2)]^2+KE(m3)

However, I wish to model non-linear linkages of the above 3 masses and 2 springs.

Suppose that the second spring (m2-m3) is angle θ away from the axis of the first spring (m1-m2).

I am quite daunted by the flexing or bending of the springs.
If you simply replace the lengths by vectors, that should work. The angle will not be constant, right?
 
@haruspex Good question about the angle being constant. The angle of intersection should be constant for a given simulation, however the springs themselves may bend.

Using vectors sounds promising. I am not sure if the vectors (alone) would contain the necessary information given Young's modulus, which is a variation of Hook's Law that applies to the flexing that would occur given the constant angle of intersection, which I should have mentioned to begin with.

The tricky thing about Young's modulus is that while the angles between the springs may be constant at the central mass, the relative angles between the three masses is variable due to flexing of the springs.
 
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