Lagrangian of the system of two masses

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The discussion focuses on the Lagrangian formulation for a system of two masses, proposing a specific equation that incorporates kinetic and potential energy terms. It highlights the use of generalized coordinates, suggesting that only one coordinate may be necessary to fully describe the system. The conversation emphasizes the relationship between the coordinates and the constraints of the system, particularly through the equation x^2 + y^2 = l^2. Participants consider the efficiency of using an angle and length as generalized coordinates, while also exploring alternatives like y and x coordinates. Overall, the thread delves into optimizing the representation of the system's dynamics using Lagrangian mechanics.
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I am wondering, how does lagrangian of such system look like?

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Will it be:

L=\frac{m_{1} \cdot \dot{y}^2}{2} + \frac{m_{2} \cdot \dot{x}^2}{2} +\frac{m_{3} \cdot (\dot{y'}^2+\dot{x'}^2)}{2} + \frac{I \cdot \dot{ \alpha }^2}{2} - mgy - mgy'

where:

y'=\frac{l}{2}sin(\alpha)
x'=\frac{l}{2}cos(\alpha) ?
 
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x^2+y^2=l^2,so x,y,ω(angular velocity)can be obtained.by the way that is correct
 
I'm going to sit down and do this when I get a chance. But for now, it looks like you are only going to need one generalized coordinate to completely define the system. I would use the y-coord of m1.
 
Hmm so guys, this is correct (with this additional equation as, andrien wrote: x^2+y^2=l^2), but there is way to do that better using one generalized coordinate, right? Hmm very often this one generalize is an angle + length... but here maybe it could be done with y,x etc.
 
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