Law of Multiple Proportions practice work

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The discussion revolves around identifying which of four nitrogen oxides cannot exist according to the law of multiple proportions, based on given mass ratios of nitrogen and oxygen. Participants express confusion over how to approach the problem without knowing the total mass of the compounds. Suggestions include converting grams to moles to determine feasible ratios, emphasizing the importance of understanding the law itself. Some contributors note that the question may be too elementary for advanced learners, indicating a gap in foundational chemistry education. Clarity on the law of multiple proportions is essential for solving the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement


5 There are four common oxides that contain only N and O. The composition of three of the

compounds is shown below. According to the law of Multiple proportions, which of the

four (a, b, c, d) could not be one of the four oxides of nitrogen? a. 1.000 g(N) combined with 2.8571 g(O)
b. 1.000 g(N) combined with 1.1429 g(O)
c. 1.000 g(N) combined with 1.7143 g(O)
d. 1.000 g(N) combined with 1.5000 g(O)

Homework Equations


x=(amount of whole substance-amount given)/amount given

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm struggling badly here, any tips would be much appreciated. I don't understand how I can get the answer without knowing the grams of the whole substance (N and O together).
 
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AshleyGambrell said:
without knowing the grams of the whole substance (N and O together).
It's given to you in the statement.
AshleyGambrell said:
a. 1.000 g(N) combined with 2.8571 g(O)
b. 1.000 g(N) combined with 1.1429 g(O)
c. 1.000 g(N) combined with 1.7143 g(O)
d. 1.000 g(N) combined with 1.5000 g(O)
 
What is the mass of the product if you combine 1.0 g of something with 1.5 g of something else (and you are guaranteed they reacted completely)?
 
Not that you need to know it - nor will it help you. The question tells you what law to use.
 
Couldn't you convert those grams to moles, divide the moles of oxygen by the moles of nitrogen, and see which ratio isn't possible in a molecule for the given elements?
 
Eclair_de_XII said:
Couldn't you convert those grams to moles, divide the moles of oxygen by the moles of nitrogen, and see which ratio isn't possible in a molecule for the given elements?

Nothing of that, the necessary information isn't given and the question loses point if it is. This question is prior to the mole concept, and you could say is an important part of its justification.
 
I'm curious to see how this problem will be solved then, because I can't make anything from the numbers given. For the record, though:

amount of whole substance = amount given + amount of other substance
x = (amount of whole substance - amount given)/amount given
x = (amount given + amount of other substance - amount given)/amount given
x = amount of other substance/amount given

Because the bolded cancel each other out. Tell me if I'm giving too much of the answer away, mods.
 
Well I see people are stuck so it is a good excercise. (A good academic excercise - academic because it is with made-up figures, like a lot we got recently probably from same source, but at least ideally these make sense which others didn't even.) People are stuck because it is too elementary for them, comes from lesson 1 or at most 2 in quantitative chemistry. And possibly lessons 1 and 2 were dropped from many curriculae.
You only have to know what the quoted law actually is and I don't know what's stopping the OP or anyone else but Hushh!
 
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x=(amount of whole substance-amount given)/amount give[/B]
 
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First of all - what does the law of multiple proportions say? Quote it.
 
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The zloty has dropped! :oldbiggrin:
 
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