Lennard-Jones Work: Calculating Equilibrium Position

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The discussion focuses on calculating the work done by the Lennard-Jones force when bringing two atoms from infinity to their equilibrium position. The force is defined as F(r) = F0 [2(σ/r)13 - (σ/r)7], and the equilibrium position is identified where the force equals zero. Participants clarify that the limits of integration for calculating work are from A = -∞ to B = x0, the equilibrium position. The force at equilibrium is confirmed to be zero, leading to the conclusion that the inter-molecular distance r0 can be found by setting F(r0) = 0. This understanding allows for the evaluation of work done during the process.
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Homework Statement


I need to calculate the work donde by the Lennard-Jones Law, considering:

F(r)=F0 [2(σ/r)13-(σ/r)7]

when approximating two atoms from infinity to the equilibrium position between both atoms

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First thing I don't know how to calculate is the equilibrium position (x0) between two arbitrary atoms

The Attempt at a Solution



I just integrated this force, considering

WAB=∫F⋅dr ; r=A to r=B

As I don't know the x0, I just integrate from A to B, to later analyze the result. Assuming A=-∞ and B=x0

W= ∫ F0 [2(σ/r)13-(σ/r)7] dr ; r=A to r=B
= integrating...
= 2F0σ13 ( r-12 /-12) - F0σ7 (r-6/-6) ; still need to evaluate

Considering that A=-∞, I finally obtain:

W= F0σ7/6 (1/x06)-F0σ13/6(1/x012)

Is it right until here?
 
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What is the force at the equilibrium position. What does "equilibrium" mean?
What are your limits of integration? Consider particle A already at the origin. Then calculate the work done by the force on particle B as it is brought from infinity to x0.
 
kuruman said:
What is the force at the equilibrium position. What does "equilibrium" mean?
What are your limits of integration? Consider particle A already at the origin. Then calculate the work done by the force on particle B as it is brought from infinity to x0.
The statement of this problems is:

In diatomic molecules, the constituent atoms exert attractive forces between themselves at great distances and repulsive forces at short distances. For many molecules the Lennard-Jones law is a good approximation for the modulus of these forces.

$$ F(r)=F_0 \cdot [2(\frac{\sigma}{r})^{13}-(\frac{\sigma}{r})^7] $$

where r is the distance between the center of the nucleus of the atoms, ## \sigma ## a length parameter and ## F_0 ## a constant.

Determine the work to be performed by this force or by an external agent to approximate two atoms from infinity to the position of balance between the two.
- So, what I mean to equilibrium position is the position of balance between the two atoms, but there is no more information about that.

- The limits of integration, as I don't know the position of balance, are ## A=-\infty ## to ## B=x_0 ## (the so called position of balance).

- Didn't catch up the last advice
 
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Nacho Verdugo said:
So, what I mean to equilibrium position is the position of balance between the two atoms, but there is no more information about that.
How big is the force on molecule A when it is at equilibrium or, as you say, in balance with molecule B?
 
kuruman said:
How big is the force on molecule A when it is at equilibrium or, as you say, in balance with molecule B?

I guess it is zero right? I that way it is in equilibrium.
 
Exactly. So at what inter-molecular distance r0 is the force zero?
 
kuruman said:
Exactly. So at what inter-molecular distance r0 is the force zero?

I don't know :C I took a while to answer cause of that. I think it should be at a huge distance, right?
 
It is simpler than you think. The force in general is
$$F(r)=F_0 \cdot [2(\frac{\sigma}{r})^{13}-(\frac{\sigma}{r})^7]$$
At r = r0 you have
$$0=F(r_0)=F_0 \cdot [2(\frac{\sigma}{r_0})^{13}-(\frac{\sigma}{r_0})^7]$$
Do you see what you have to do?
 
kuruman said:
It is simpler than you think. The force in general is
$$F(r)=F_0 \cdot [2(\frac{\sigma}{r})^{13}-(\frac{\sigma}{r})^7]$$
At r = r0 you have
$$0=F(r_0)=F_0 \cdot [2(\frac{\sigma}{r_0})^{13}-(\frac{\sigma}{r_0})^7]$$
Do you see what you have to do?
yes! with $$F(r_0)=0$$ I can actually find $$r_0$$ and later evaluate that value in the integral.
 
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Go for it! :smile:
 
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kuruman said:
Go for it! :smile:
thank you very much!:biggrin:
 
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Nacho Verdugo said:
yes! with $$F(r_0)=0$$ I can actually find $$r_0$$ and later evaluate that value in the integral.
 
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Nacho Verdugo said:
The statement of this problems is:

In diatomic molecules, the constituent atoms exert attractive forces between themselves at great distances and repulsive forces at short distances. For many molecules the Lennard-Jones law is a good approximation for the modulus of these forces.

$$ F(r)=F_0 \cdot [2(\frac{\sigma}{r})^{13}-(\frac{\sigma}{r})^7] $$

where r is the distance between the center of the nucleus of the atoms, ## \sigma ## a length parameter and ## F_0 ## a constant.

Determine the work to be performed by this force or by an external agent to approximate two atoms from infinity to the position of balance between the two.
- So, what I mean to equilibrium position is the position of balance between the two atoms, but there is no more information about that.

- The limits of integration, as I don't know the position of balance, are ## A=-\infty ## to ## B=x_0 ## (the so called position of balance).

- Didn't catch up the last advice
 
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Is there a question you wish to ask?
 
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kuruman said:
Is there a question you wish to ask?
No thanks! I just made a mistake editing this.
 
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