Lighting Requirements, Industrial/Commercial.

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The discussion revolves around lighting requirements for industrial and commercial settings, focusing on measurement units such as lux and foot-candles, as well as the technical aspects of light output and reflectivity. Participants explore definitions and implications of lighting metrics, including candela and lumen measurements.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire whether lighting requirements are stated in lux and seek sources for various settings, noting that local building codes and OSHA may provide relevant information.
  • One participant mentions that lighting requirements are typically given in foot-candles, suggesting a link to OSHA standards for further guidance.
  • A question is raised about the hemispherical spectral reflectivity of polished thin white metal used as a reflector in fixtures, with a hypothesis about doubling lumens emitted in the lower hemisphere.
  • Participants discuss the meaning of lumens in relation to steradians, questioning whether the stated lumens for a lamp are total or per steradian.
  • There is a request for clarification on the definition of candela, with a participant attempting to relate it to photon flux and expressing confusion about its dependence on distance (r) when measuring light output.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the measurement and implications of lighting metrics, with no consensus reached on the definitions and calculations related to candela and its dependence on distance.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the definitions and relationships between different lighting measurements, including how distance affects candela ratings and the implications for practical applications.

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Are the lighting requirements stated in lux? Also, where would I go to find out the requirements for various settings? I looked around in the NEC book but didn't really find anything.

Thanks for the help.
 
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Starwatcher16 said:
Are the lighting requirements stated in lux? Also, where would I go to find out the requirements for various settings? I looked around in the NEC book but didn't really find anything.

Thanks for the help.

Local building codes should tell you what type of lighting is required for various buildings as well as CFR and OSHA.

The requirements are typically given in foot-candles.

Here is a link from OSHA which should point you in the right direction:

http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=STANDARDS&p_id=10630

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For most fixtures, there is some type of polished thin white metal above the lamp used as a reflector. About what would it's hemispherical spectral reflectivity be?

It is more or less a speculur reflector right?

Assuming the reflectivity is high, and the upper hemisphere is blocked by this metal, can I double the lumens being emitted in the lower hemisphere, getting Candella*4pi=x Lumens ?
 
For a lamp that is stated to have x lumens, is that x lumens total, or x lumens per steradian?
 
While we are at it, could someone explain to me what a Candella is? I am not really getting it.

Okay, so it is a Watt/Steradian. Okay.

Lets say that when we get a flux of 100 photons passing through a surface per second, that that is equal to one watt.

So if we have, let's say 50 Candella, we have a flux of 5000 photons passing through a surface whose area equals r^2 per second.

What I do not get, is, if the Candella is defined this way, then doesn't that mean that the candella is dependent on r? If I were to double r, then i am quadrupling the surface area, and therefore my Candella will go down to a quarter its previous value.

So what does it mean, when you say a lamp has a candella rating of X, without giving the r that was used to determine that?

I mean, if I choose a big enough R, I could get the sun to have a candella of 1E-1000
 

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