Lim of this function using L'Hopitals rule multiple times

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of a function as x approaches 2 from above, specifically involving the expression (√x - √21 + √(x - 2))/(√(x^2 - 4)). The problem is situated within the context of calculus and the application of L'Hôpital's rule due to the indeterminate form encountered.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply L'Hôpital's rule after encountering a 0/0 indeterminate form upon substitution. They express confusion after repeatedly obtaining an indeterminate form of ∞/∞.
  • Some participants suggest considering the limit of the square of the function to simplify the evaluation, while others question whether this approach would yield a different limit than the original function.
  • There is discussion about the implications of squaring the function and the necessity of taking the square root afterward, as well as the algebraic manipulations involved in applying L'Hôpital's rule multiple times.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the limit and the implications of manipulating the function. Some guidance has been offered regarding the simplification of the denominator, indicating that applying L'Hôpital's rule may be more straightforward than initially thought.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of limits involving square roots and the potential pitfalls of indeterminate forms. The original poster has expressed uncertainty about the validity of their approaches and the outcomes of their calculations.

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Homework Statement



lim as x approached 2 from above of:

(x1/2 - 21/2 + (x - 2)1/2)/(x2 - 4)1/2

Homework Equations



l'hospital's rule...

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried susbtituting in 2 and found that I got 0/0 thus it was possible to use l'hospital's. I then got inf/inf, so I used it again, but now I keep getting inf/inf. So what do I do? I'm stumped. I tried factorising but the + and - signs prevented me.
 
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The reason you keep getting indeterminate form is probably because the pesky power of 1/2. Assuming the limit exists, instead of looking for the limit of f(x) where f(x) is your function there, consider instead looking for the limit of the *square* of f(x).
 
yenchin said:
The reason you keep getting indeterminate form is probably because the pesky power of 1/2. Assuming the limit exists, instead of looking for the limit of f(x) where f(x) is your function there, consider instead looking for the limit of the *square* of f(x).

But won't that give us a different limit? since the function squared is essentially a different function to the original.
 
animboy said:
But won't that give us a different limit? since the function squared is essentially a different function to the original.

Of course you would then need to take the square root at the end...
 
To be more explicit, if the limit of f and g exist, then lim(f g)=(lim f)(lim g). In particular, lim(f^2)=(limf)^2.
 
animboy said:
But won't that give us a different limit? since the function squared is essentially a different function to the original.
It follows from the fact that for any two functions [itex]f(x)[/itex] and [itex]g(x)[/itex] such that the limits

[tex]\lim_{x\to x_0}f(x)\text{ and } \lim_{x\to x_0}g(x)[/tex]

exist, then

[tex]\lim_{x\to x_0}[f(x) g(x)] = [\lim_{x\to x_0}f(x)][\lim_{x\to x_0}g(x)][/tex]

Edit: Seems that I was beaten to it!
 
Hootenanny said:
It follows from the fact that for any two functions [itex]f(x)[/itex] and [itex]g(x)[/itex] such that the limits

[tex]\lim_{x\to x_0}f(x)\text{ and } \lim_{x\to x_0}g(x)[/tex]

exist, then

[tex]\lim_{x\to x_0}[f(x) g(x)] = [\lim_{x\to x_0}f(x)][\lim_{x\to x_0}g(x)][/tex]

Edit: Seems that I was beaten to it!

I tried this and the resulting functions again gave me 0/0 so I again used l'hospital's and after length algebra this is the expression I got:

{2 - (2/x)0.5 + [2(2(x3 - 3x2 + 3x - 2))0.5 - (x2 - 2x)0.5]/ [2x3 - 8x2 + 8x]}

What do I do now, substituting in 2 gives <1 + inf> where inf comes from the third expression in the equation which gives "(0 - 0)/0". SO what now?
 
Now check again. The square of your function should give something nice. You only need to apply L'Hopital *once* to get the answer. In particular your denominator x^2-4 now just becomes 2x. So when x goes to 2, it does not give trouble.
 

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