\lim_{n \to \infty} \sqrt(n+1)/n

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of the sequence \(\lim_{n \to \infty} \frac{\sqrt{n+1}}{n}\). Participants express their thoughts on the limit's value, with some suggesting it approaches zero.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants attempt to manipulate the expression \(\frac{\sqrt{n+1}}{n}\) and explore inequalities to analyze its behavior as \(n\) approaches infinity. There are discussions about using L'Hopital's rule and double inequalities for bounding the expression.

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Some participants have provided insights and alternative approaches, such as using inequalities and algebraic manipulations. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to understand the limit, but no consensus has been reached regarding the simplest or most elegant solution.

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Participants note the constraints of the problem, including the avoidance of certain calculus concepts like L'Hopital's rule, as well as the need to justify inequalities used in their reasoning.

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Homework Statement



To find the limit of the sequence (I suppose it is zero)
[tex]\lim \frac{\sqrt{n+1}}{n}[/tex]


Homework Equations


The limit is zero if for every [itex]\epsilon > 0[/itex] there exists [itex]n_0[/itex] such that for all [itex]n \geq n_0[/itex] one has
[tex]|a_n - 0| < \epsilon[/tex]
or what is the same
[tex]-\epsilon < a_n < +\epsilon[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


Tried writing it as
[tex](n+1)^{1/2} n^{-1}[/tex]
but have no idea what to do next.

I know I can think the associated differentiable function [tex]f(x) = \frac{\sqrt{x+1}}{x}[/tex] and use L'Hopital, but that would be cheating, as this concept is previous to the limit of functions.
 
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Damidami said:

Homework Statement



To find the limit of the sequence (I suppose it is zero)
[tex]\lim \frac{\sqrt{n+1}}{n}[/tex]


Homework Equations


The limit is zero if for every [itex]\epsilon > 0[/itex] there exists [itex]n_0[/itex] such that for all [itex]n \geq n_0[/itex] one has
[tex]|a_n - 0| < \epsilon[/tex]
or what is the same
[tex]-\epsilon < a_n < +\epsilon[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


Tried writing it as
[tex](n+1)^{1/2} n^{-1}[/tex]
but have no idea what to do next.

I know I can think the associated differentiable function [tex]f(x) = \frac{\sqrt{x+1}}{x}[/tex] and use L'Hopital, but that would be cheating, as this concept is previous to the limit of functions.

You have [itex]\frac{\sqrt{n+1}}{n} < \epsilon[/itex]
Start by multiplying both sides by n. Since n > 0, this won't change the direction of the inequality. Next, square both sides, which gives you a quadratic inequality that you can solve for n.
 
You can use the double inequality

[tex]0 < \frac{\sqrt{1+n}}{n} <\frac{2}{\sqrt{1+n}}[/tex], valid for n>1.
 
Hi Mark44,
Thanks, that gives me

[tex]\alpha_+ = \frac{1 + \sqrt{1+4\epsilon^2}}{2\epsilon^2}[/tex]
[tex]\alpha_- = \frac{1 - \sqrt{1+4\epsilon^2}}{2\epsilon^2}[/tex]

So it suffices to take [tex]n_0 = [\alpha_+ + 1][/tex] right?
(the least integer greater than the greater of the real roots)

(It works, still, I think there should be a nicer way, without feching roots of polynomials)

I have a related question: my teacher used in part of an exercise that
[tex]\left| \frac{2n - 16}{n^2 + 5} \right| \leq \frac{2n+16}{n^2}[/tex]
I don't find it obvious, con you find the operation he made to conclude that?
 
dextercioby said:
You can use the double inequality

[tex]0 < \frac{\sqrt{1+n}}{n} <\frac{2}{\sqrt{1+n}}[/tex], valid for n>1.

Hi dextercioby,
Thanks! Sounds trivial now, but how did you get that insight?
 
Damidami said:
Hi dextercioby,
Thanks! Sounds trivial now, but how did you get that insight?

if n > 1, then n+1 < n+n = 2n.

but n+1 = (√(n+1))(√(n+1)), for positive n.

(this is a standard trick with things involving square roots:

1/√x = √x/x. in this particular instance we use the reciprocals:

√x = x/√x. so:

√(n+1)/n = (n+1)/[n√(n+1)] < 2n/[n√(n+1)] = 2/√(n+1).

the only real insight, besides the "algebraic wizardry"

is that n > 1 implies n+1 < 2n).
 
Damidami said:
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I have a related question: my teacher used in part of an exercise that
[tex]\left| \frac{2n - 16}{n^2 + 5} \right| \leq \frac{2n+16}{n^2}[/tex]
I don't find it obvious, con you find the operation he made to conclude that?

[itex]\displaystyle \left| {2n - 16} \right| \leq {2n+16}[/itex] by using the triangle inequality.

[itex]\displaystyle n^2 + 5 \ge n^2>0[/itex] pretty obviously.

Therefore: [itex]\displaystyle \frac{1}{n^2 + 5}\le\frac{1}{n^2}[/itex]
 

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