Limit as x approaches -2: Why is the result 1/12 instead of 1?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of the expression (x+2)/(x^3+8) as x approaches -2, which results in an indeterminate form of 0/0. Participants are exploring why the expected answer differs from the provided solution of 1/12.

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  • Some participants discuss the need to factor the denominator and reference polynomial properties. Others mention L'Hôpital's Rule as a potential method for resolving the indeterminate form. There are questions about the validity of the expected answer and whether the text might be incorrect.

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The conversation includes various perspectives on how to approach the limit problem, with some participants suggesting factoring while others advocate for L'Hôpital's Rule. There is no explicit consensus on the best method, but multiple interpretations and approaches are being explored.

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Participants note that the original poster's understanding of the limit leading to 1 may stem from a misunderstanding of the properties of limits and indeterminate forms. There is also mention of the educational context regarding the teaching of differentiation and factoring.

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Limit is 0/0 ??

Homework Statement



limit as x approaches -2 of:

(x+2)/(x3+8)


The Attempt at a Solution



I plugged -2 into the eq'n and I got 0 for both the numerator and denomenator, so I thought the answer would be 1.


Apparently it's supposed to be 1/12 ...
is the text wrong?
 
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You need to factor (x^3 - 8).

I remember my PreCalc teacher telling me that if I get 0/0, I can always factor something out.
 


\lim_{x \rightarrow a} \frac{f(x)}{g(x)} = \frac{ \lim_{x \rightarrow a} f(x)}{ \lim_{x \rightarrow a} g(x)}

holds only if \lim_{x \rightarrow a} g(x) is not equal to zero. So you can't just split the limit up and get 0/0 (which isn't defined to be 1 anyway).

If x3+8 is equal to 0 at x=-2, it means you can factor an (x-(-2)) = x+2 from it (basic fact about polynomials)
 


did you learn l'hospital's rule?
if you get 0/0 or infinty or undefined, can't you just get the derivative of the top and bottom
so you got 0/0
then f(x)/g(x)
find f'(x)/ g'(x) and keep getting the derivative of top and bottom until you get an actual value when you plug in a, or in this case, -2
am i wrong or...what?
 


L'hopital rule is fine of course.. you different top/bottom separately and get 1/3x^2, which is 1/12 if you plug in -2.
 


if you get "0/0" - you should always use L'Hopital Rule.
Note that "0/1" or "1/0" results you shouldn't use... :)
 


Jules18 said:

Homework Statement



limit as x approaches -2 of:

(x+2)/(x3+8)


The Attempt at a Solution



I plugged -2 into the eq'n and I got 0 for both the numerator and denomenator, so I thought the answer would be 1.


Apparently it's supposed to be 1/12 ...
is the text wrong?

L'Hopital's Rule is overkill for this problem, and is therefore not needed. The denominator can be factored into (x + 2) times a quadratic. The sum or difference of two cubes can be factored as follows:

a3 + b3 = (a + b)(a2 - ab + b2)
a3 - b3 = (a - b)(a2 + ab + b2)
 


^
Agreed.
 


In fact, any time a polynomial, P(x), say, equals 0 for x= a, it must have x- a as a factor. You can use "long division" or "synthetic division" to determine the other factor.
 
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Mark44 said:
L'Hopital's Rule is overkill for this problem, and is therefore not needed.
I don't know about that. L'Hopital's rule is more general (applies to non-polynomials) and differentiation is easier than factoring. Given the choice between an easy general solution and a difficult specialized solution I will pick the easy general approach every time.
 
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DaleSpam said:
I don't know about that. L'Hopital's rule is more general (applies to non-polynomials) and differentiation is easier than factoring. Given the choice between an easy general solution and a difficult specialized solution I will pick the easy general approach every time.
Notice that I said "for this problem." Also, factoring is almost always taught before differentiation, so if the OP hasn't been exposed to differentiation yet, then L'Hopital's Rule would be out of the question, regardless of its generality.
 

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