Limits using basic analysis theorems and logic?

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The discussion focuses on demonstrating that the limit of the expression √(n² + 2n) - n approaches 1 as n approaches infinity. Participants suggest using algebraic manipulation, such as rewriting the expression and applying the conjugate to simplify the limit. One solution involves expressing the limit in terms of a right triangle's side lengths, while another approach utilizes Taylor expansion for simplification. The final consensus indicates that the limit indeed approaches 1, confirming the validity of the methods discussed. The conversation highlights various techniques in basic analysis for evaluating limits.
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Hi,

I need help again. How can I show that

\sqrt{n^2+2n}-n \rightarrow 1​

for n\rightarrow\infty using basic analysis theorems and logic? Any ideas?
 
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I bet if you checked your book, you'd find an example of a clever way of dealing with limits involving differences like these...
 
try doing something to it that involves its conjugate...
 
Rewrite \sqrt{n^2+2n}-n as


[\sqrt{(n+1)^2 - 1^2} -(n+1)] + 1

Thus you need to show that

\sqrt{(n+1)^2 - 1^2} -(n+1) \rightarrow 0

as n to infinity. But if you look at the way it is written, you will see that it looks suspiciously like the difference between the length of two sides of a right triangle as one of the points on the triangle goes to infinity.

Carl
 
Thanks guys. Hurkyl was right; there actually was an example dealing with this in the back of the book. I can't believe I missed it.
 
What is the solution?
 
We want to show that \sqrt{n^2+2n} - (n+1) \rightarrow 0, so we rewrite the expression:


\sqrt{n^2+2n} - (n+1) = \frac{\left(\sqrt{n^2+2n} - (n+1)\right)\left(\sqrt{n^2+2n} + (n+1)\right)}{\sqrt{n^2+2n} + (n+1)} = \frac{-1}{\sqrt{n^2+2n} + (n+1)}


It is obvious that the final expression tends to 0 as n\rightarrow\infty.
 
I solved it thus:

(n^2 + 2n)^1/2 = (n^2)^1/2 * (1+2/n)^1/2


therefore this = n(1+2/n)^1/2

now expand the bracket using taylor's theorem to get

(1+2/n)^1/2= 1+(1/n)-(1/n^2)+...


therefore multiplying by n in the above you have n+1-(1/n) as n tends to infinity the (1/n) becomes irrelevant and we are left with n+1. Just subtract the n from the original expression and you obtain the desired result, 1.

Take care, Joe
 
Gosh, that looks complicated!

I would have thought using gDogg's suggestion and writing
\sqrt{n^2+2n}-n= \frac{(\sqrt{n^2+2n}-n)(\sqrt{n^2+2n}+n)}{\sqrt{n^2+2n}+n}
= \frac{2n}{\sqrt{n^2+ 2n}+n}

would be much simpler.
 
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Yes... he could have used the binomial theorem!

<br /> (n^2 + 2n)^{1/2} = (n^2)^{1/2} + \frac{1/2}{1} (n^2)^{-1/2} (2n) + \frac{(1/2) * (-1/2)}{1 * 2} (n^2)^{-3/2} (2n)^2 + \cdots<br /> = n + 1 + O\left(\frac{1}{n}\right)<br />

(since n² > 2n when n grows large)
(Hrm, did he make a mistake in the third term, or did I?)
 
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