Line integral to calculate work

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The discussion revolves around calculating work done by a force using line integrals, specifically focusing on the conversion of variables in the integral. The user is confused about the differentiation process when converting dx into terms of θ, questioning why the derivative of sine is used instead of x. Clarification is provided that differentiating both sides of the equation x = L sin(θ) with respect to θ yields dx = L cos(θ) dθ. The conversation also touches on the possibility of solving the problem using energy concepts and conservative forces. Ultimately, the user considers starting a new thread for further exploration of these ideas.
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Hi. I have a concrete doubt with this problem. Here's the pic.

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It asks me to calculate the work done by force P (the ball moves with constant speed). So the solution is in the book and I understood everything, but the problem comes here,

the force P in axis y is zero so the work of P should be:

\int\limits_{{x_o}}^{{x_f}} {{P_x}dx}

And we know that Px is equal to the tension in axis x so:

\int\limits_{}^{} {T\sin \theta dx}

But we need to convert the variable dx into theta variable. And the books states that as:
x = L\sin \theta
then:
dx = L\cos \theta d\theta

But shouldn't it be:
dx = L\sin\theta d\theta??

Why did it take the derivative of sine and not of x on the other side? Thank you!
 

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Given:
##~~~x = L sin(\theta)##

Differentiate w.r.t. θ:
##~~~\frac{dx}{d \theta} = L cos(\theta) ##

Rearrange:
##~~~dx = L cos(\theta) d\theta##
 
Sorry but what did you do in the second step (wrt?)? I think I'm understaning now but I still don't get it.

Thanks!
 
Differentiate both sides with respect to theta.
 
Whovian said:
Differentiate both sides with respect to theta.

Aham! So it would be an intermediate step there:

\frac{{dx}}{{d\theta }} = \frac{d}{{d\theta }}L\sin \theta

I didn't know that you could take dO to the other side as a product. Thanks!
 
Think about it. If two functions are constantly the same, shouldn't their derivatives also be equal?
 
And could this exercise be solved easily using the concepts of energy and conservative forces? Then, how could I begin?

Thanks!

Edit. I'll create a new thread.
 
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