Line of charge and conducting sphere (method of images)

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the method of images in electrostatics, specifically involving an infinite line charge and a conducting sphere. Participants explore the relationships and analogies between point charges and line charges in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants consider using the analogy of a point charge to understand the behavior of an infinitesimal element of the line charge. There are discussions about sketching diagrams and relating definitions of circles to the problem at hand.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants expressing confusion about how certain definitions apply to the problem. Some have noted the image curve as a circle but are uncertain about its relevance. There is a recognition of misinterpretation regarding the original poster's intent, indicating a need for clarification.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the application of Apollonius' definition of a circle in the context of the infinite line charge and conducting sphere, highlighting potential gaps in understanding or assumptions made about the problem setup.

thedddmer
Messages
1
Reaction score
0
Homework Statement
Need to use method find the geometrical place of the images and the charge density of an infinite line of charge and a conducting sphere
Relevant Equations
so the problem is only to find a segment of the line of charge inside the sphere, should be and kind of egg shape image (at least is what someone told me)
I was thinking of using the sphere and point charge as an analog, but is quite diferent from what i have seen
 
Physics news on Phys.org
thedddmer said:
I was thinking of using the sphere and point charge as an analog,
OK

thedddmer said:
but is quite diferent from what i have seen
An infinitesimal element of the line charge can be treated as a point charge. Sketch a diagram of the situation and consider an arbitrary element of the line charge.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: vanhees71
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circles_of_Apollonius

The alternative definition of a circle: the set of all points whose ratio of distances from two points is a fixed constant.

After all the potential of two (equal but opposite line charges) is

##\frac{\lambda}{2 \pi \epsilon_0} \ln \frac{r_1}{r_2}##

If that is a constant

then

##\frac{r_1}{r_2}## is also constant
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: TSny
PhDeezNutz said:
The alternative definition of a circle: the set of all points whose ratio of distances from two points is a fixed constant.

I'm having a hard time relating this to the infinite line charge and conducting sphere. I do find that the image curve is a circle.

But I haven't yet figured out how Apollonius' definition of a circle helps in this problem.
 
TSny said:
I'm having a hard time relating this to the infinite line charge and conducting sphere. I do find that the image curve is a circle.

But I haven't yet figured out how Apollonius' definition of a circle helps in this problem.

Oh wow I totally misread the OP. I thought OP wanted to know the image of an infinite line charge inside a cylinder. And wanted to use the point charge image inside a sphere as an analog.

Welp.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
819
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
5K
Replies
13
Views
3K
  • · Replies 49 ·
2
Replies
49
Views
6K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
6K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
12
Views
1K