Line of charge and conducting sphere (method of images)

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The discussion revolves around the application of the method of images to analyze the interaction between an infinite line charge and a conducting sphere. Participants explore the idea of treating an infinitesimal element of the line charge as a point charge and discuss the potential created by equal but opposite line charges. There is confusion regarding the relevance of Apollonius' definition of a circle in this context, with one participant noting the image curve is a circle but struggling to connect it to the problem at hand. Misinterpretations about the original question also arise, highlighting the complexity of the topic. The conversation reflects the challenges of applying theoretical concepts to practical scenarios in electrostatics.
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Homework Statement
Need to use method find the geometrical place of the images and the charge density of an infinite line of charge and a conducting sphere
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so the problem is only to find a segment of the line of charge inside the sphere, should be and kind of egg shape image (at least is what someone told me)
I was thinking of using the sphere and point charge as an analog, but is quite diferent from what i have seen
 
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thedddmer said:
I was thinking of using the sphere and point charge as an analog,
OK

thedddmer said:
but is quite diferent from what i have seen
An infinitesimal element of the line charge can be treated as a point charge. Sketch a diagram of the situation and consider an arbitrary element of the line charge.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circles_of_Apollonius

The alternative definition of a circle: the set of all points whose ratio of distances from two points is a fixed constant.

After all the potential of two (equal but opposite line charges) is

##\frac{\lambda}{2 \pi \epsilon_0} \ln \frac{r_1}{r_2}##

If that is a constant

then

##\frac{r_1}{r_2}## is also constant
 
PhDeezNutz said:
The alternative definition of a circle: the set of all points whose ratio of distances from two points is a fixed constant.

I'm having a hard time relating this to the infinite line charge and conducting sphere. I do find that the image curve is a circle.

But I haven't yet figured out how Apollonius' definition of a circle helps in this problem.
 
TSny said:
I'm having a hard time relating this to the infinite line charge and conducting sphere. I do find that the image curve is a circle.

But I haven't yet figured out how Apollonius' definition of a circle helps in this problem.

Oh wow I totally misread the OP. I thought OP wanted to know the image of an infinite line charge inside a cylinder. And wanted to use the point charge image inside a sphere as an analog.

Welp.
 
I want to find the solution to the integral ##\theta = \int_0^{\theta}\frac{du}{\sqrt{(c-u^2 +2u^3)}}## I can see that ##\frac{d^2u}{d\theta^2} = A +Bu+Cu^2## is a Weierstrass elliptic function, which can be generated from ##\Large(\normalsize\frac{du}{d\theta}\Large)\normalsize^2 = c-u^2 +2u^3## (A = 0, B=-1, C=3) So does this make my integral an elliptic integral? I haven't been able to find a table of integrals anywhere which contains an integral of this form so I'm a bit stuck. TerryW

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