Linear algebra: Finding a basis for a space of polynomials

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The discussion revolves around finding a basis for a space of polynomials, specifically related to two given subspaces L and M, each defined by their respective bases. Participants are exploring the relationships between these subspaces and the polynomials they span.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to clarify the definitions of the vector spaces L and M, and how to express polynomials in terms of their bases. There is a focus on understanding the method for finding a basis for the space of polynomials, including the use of RREF for matrices.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the definitions and relationships between the polynomials in L and M. Some have provided detailed expressions for vectors in these spaces, while others are seeking clarification on specific terms and methods.

Contextual Notes

There is an indication of confusion regarding the relationships between the coefficients of the polynomials and the constraints imposed by the definitions of L and M. The conversation hints at a potential misunderstanding of the problem setup, as noted by participants commenting on the nature of the homework.

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Homework Statement


Let
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and
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are two basis of subspaces
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and [PLAIN]http://www.sosmath.com/CBB/latexrender/pictures/69691c7bdcc3ce6d5d8a1361f22d04ac.png. Find one basis of http://www.sosmath.com/CBB/latexrender/pictures/38d4e8e4669e784ae19bf38762e06045.png and [PLAIN]http://www.sosmath.com/CBB/latexrender/pictures/fd36d76c568c236aaaad68e084eef495.png.

Homework Equations


-Vector space
-Basis
-Polynomials

The Attempt at a Solution


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Could someone explain the method for finding a basis for a space of polynomials.
I know that with
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we need to find RREF of an augmented matrix,
and read a basis from matrix, but how to do it with polynomials?
 
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Do you understand what L and M are? Can you describe these as vector spaces?
 
The first post says exactly what L and M are- it gives their bases. L is the space of polynomials spanned by \{1+ t- t^3, 1+ t+ t^2, 1- t\} so any vector in L is of the form a(1+ t- t^3)+ b(1+ t+ t^2)+ c(1- t)= -at^3+ bt^2+ (a+ b- c)t+ (a+ b+ c) for any number a, b, and c. M is the space of polynomials spanned by \{t^3+ t, 2- t^3, 2+ t^3\} so any vector is M is of the form p(t^3+ t)+ q(2- t^3)+ r(2+ t^3)= (p- q+ r)t^3+ pt+ (2q+ 2r) for any numbers p, q, and r. Any vector in L+ M is of the form (-a+ p- q+ r)t^3+ bt^2+ (a+ b- c+ p)t+ (a+ b+ c+ 2q+ 2r). Any vector in L\cap M can be written as either of those 2 first forms with -a= p+ q+ r, b= 0, a+ b- c= p, and a+ b+ c= 2q+ 2r. Simplify those.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
-a= p+ q+ r
-a= p - q+ r?
 
Looks like this has turned into Halls of Ivy's homework!
 
Oh, dear!
 

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