Linear Algebra: given adj(A) find A

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The discussion revolves around finding the matrix A given its adjoint, adj(A), specifically when adj(A) is provided as a 3x3 matrix. The context is linear algebra, focusing on properties of adjoints and determinants.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between a matrix and its adjoint, questioning how to derive A from adj(A). Some discuss the implications of the adjoint's properties, while others consider the need for additional equations involving the determinant.

Discussion Status

The conversation has progressed with participants sharing insights about the properties of adjoints, including the relationship adj(adj(A)) = A in certain cases. Some have identified the determinant of adj(A) and its implications for finding A, while others are still seeking alternative methods or clarifications on definitions.

Contextual Notes

There are varying definitions of the adjoint matrix being discussed, and some participants note that the relationship between adj(A) and A may depend on the size of the matrix. Additionally, there is mention of constraints related to the specific case of 2x2 matrices.

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[SOLVED] Linear Algebra: given adj(A) find A

Homework Statement



If adj\mathbb A = \left(\begin{array}{ccc}1&0&1\\1&-1&0\\0&2&1\end{array}\right), find A. Briefly justify your algorithm.

Homework Equations



adj\mathbb A=(det\mathbb A)(\mathbb A^{-1})

The Attempt at a Solution



adj\mathbb A=(det\mathbb A)(\mathbb A^{-1})
invert both sides to get:
(adj\mathbb A)^{-1} = [(det\mathbb A)(\mathbb A^{-1})]^{-1}
(adj\mathbb A)^{-1} = (\mathbb A^{-1})^{-1}(det\mathbb A)^{-1}
(adj\mathbb A)^{-1} = (\mathbb A)(\frac{1}{det\mathbb A})
\mathbb A = (det\mathbb A)(adj\mathbb A)^{-1}

My, isn't that nice.

I computed (adj\mathbb A)^{-1}, and found it to be
\left(\begin{array}{ccc}-1&2&1\\-1&1&1\\2&-2&-1\end{array}\right)
But I have no clue how to find detA, so I'm stuck with one equation:
\mathbb A = (det\mathbb A)(adj\mathbb A)^{-1}
and two unknowns:
\mathbb A and det\mathbb A
 
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mbrmbrg said:
I'm stuck with one equation:
\mathbb A = (det\mathbb A)(adj\mathbb A)^{-1}
and two unknowns:
\mathbb A and det\mathbb A
You have an equation involving A, and you need an equation involving det A... that should suggest something...
 
Are you aware that "adjoint" is a "dual" property?
that is, that the "adjoint of the adjoint of A" is A itself. You are given the adjoint of A and are asked to find A- just find the adjoint of the matrix you are given.
 
Hurkyl, did you mean for me to use HOI's formula, or did you have something else in mind? (and no, I'm not trying to mooch the answer :smile:)

Thanks, HallsofIvy! No, I had no idea that adj(adjA)=A. Did I ever know that...? Nope; can I derive it?
:much kerfuffle, then gives up and looks through notes:
Well, fancy that! I have played with adj(adjA) before, and found that it equals (det\mathbb A)^{n-2}\mathbb A (if you'd like to see the whole derivation, I'll type it up, but I did it a very long way and then we proved it differently in class, and got the same result)
Playing with it again (using adj\mathbb A=(det\mathbb A)(\mathbb A^{-1})), I can't get adj(adjA)=A. Can it be derived using only that formula?
Thanks!
 
What exactly is your definition of adj(A)? (There are several equivalent definitions.) How you would prove that depends strongly on your definition of adjoint.
 
We defined adj(A) as the transpose of the cofactor matrix of A.
 
OK, I asked my professor about adj(adjA), and he said it only equals A in special cases. The general formula is adj(adj\mathbb A)=(det\mathbb A)^{n-2}\mathbb A, so you can be sure that it equals A when A is a 2x2 matrix.

Right, so basically, what I'm asking is: is there another method of finding A given adjA?

Thanks!
 
mbrmbrg said:
OK, I asked my professor about adj(adjA), and he said it only equals A in special cases. The general formula is adj(adj\mathbb A)=(det\mathbb A)^{n-2}\mathbb A, so you can be sure that it equals A when A is a 2x2 matrix.
There are other times you can solve that equation for A...
 
Hurkyl, I so have not been ignoring your help.
I just spent a couple of days randomly interrupting conversations with, "Hang on! I think I got it!" only to find that I hadn't got it, after all.
But now... da dum!
I was playing with my calculator, and I accidentally found the numeric value of det(adjA).
One thing led to another, and now: BEHOLD! (where's that emoticon with a brass brand when you need one?)

Given that for my matrix, det(adjA)=1.

I happen to know (well, my notes know it, but I could theoretically re-derive it, right?) that det(adj\mathbb A)=(det\mathbb A)^{n-1}.

So... 1=(det\mathbb A)^{3-1}, or more simply det A=\pm 1

At last, I can use that equation that I'm in love with, and say
\mathbb A^{-1}=\frac{adj\mathbb A}{det\mathbb A}

\mathbb A=(adj\mathbb A)^{-1}det\mathbb A

\mathbb A=(adj\mathbb A)^{-1}(\pm 1)

\mathbb A=(\pm1)\left(\begin{array}{ccc}-1&2&1\\-1&1&1\\2&-2&-1\end{array}\right)

Which would explain why my professor gave me so much credit on the exam for finding the inverse of adjA and mumbling stuff.

Yay!

Thanks, people! :smile:
 
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