Linear approximation and rational numbers

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The discussion revolves around using linear approximation to estimate the value of the expression sqrt((3.2)^2 + 2(2.1) + (4.3)^2) as a rational number. Participants are exploring the application of linear approximation in a multivariable context, specifically focusing on the function f(x,y,z) = sqrt(x^2 + 2y + z^2).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial setup of the problem, including the choice of values for x, y, and z, as well as their respective increments. There is uncertainty about how to simplify the resulting expression into a single rational number. Some participants question the omission of crucial steps in the linear approximation process, particularly regarding the calculation of partial derivatives.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the steps involved in the linear approximation process. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of partial derivatives and the structure of the approximation formula, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or the final form of the approximation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of precision in the final estimate, suggesting that it should be expressed to one decimal place. There is also a recognition that the estimate will fall between 5 and 6, based on preliminary calculations.

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Homework Statement



Use linear approximation to approximate sqrt((3.2)^2 + 2(2.1) + (4.3)^2)

with a rational number (a ratio of integers).

Homework Equations



f(x,y) = sqrt(x^2 + 2y + z^2)
f(x,y) = (x^2 + 2y + z^2)^1/2

The Attempt at a Solution



x = 3 ∆x = 2/10
y = 2 ∆y = 1/10
z = 4 ∆z = 3/10

≈ sqrt(3^2 + 2(2) + 4^2) + [3/sqrt(3^2 + 2(2) + 4^2)] (2/10) + [2/sqrt(3^2 + 2(2) + 4^2)] (1/10) + [4/sqrt(3^2 + 2(2) + 4^2)] (3/10)

≈ [sqrt(29)] + [6/sqrt(29)(10)] + [2/sqrt(29)(10)] + [12/sqrt(29)(10)]


I'm not sure where to go from here to simplify it down to a single ratio. Am I on the right track?
 
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camino said:

Homework Statement



Use linear approximation to approximate sqrt((3.2)^2 + 2(2.1) + (4.3)^2)

with a rational number (a ratio of integers).
The estimate should probably be to 1 decimal place, since that's the precision that your numbers seem to be given to. The estimate will be between 5 and 6, based on a quick mental calculation. If you end up with, say, 5.6, that is a rational number. Any decimal fraction that terminates is a rational number.
camino said:

Homework Equations



f(x,y) = sqrt(x^2 + 2y + z^2)
f(x,y) = (x^2 + 2y + z^2)^1/2
Your function has three variables, so it should be f(x, y, z) = ...
camino said:

The Attempt at a Solution



x = 3 ∆x = 2/10
y = 2 ∆y = 1/10
z = 4 ∆z = 3/10

≈ sqrt(3^2 + 2(2) + 4^2) + [3/sqrt(3^2 + 2(2) + 4^2)] (2/10) + [2/sqrt(3^2 + 2(2) + 4^2)] (1/10) + [4/sqrt(3^2 + 2(2) + 4^2)] (3/10)
You have omitted the crucial step of finding ∆f, which involves the first partials with respect to x, y, and z, and the increments, ∆x, ∆y, and ∆z.
camino said:
≈ [sqrt(29)] + [6/sqrt(29)(10)] + [2/sqrt(29)(10)] + [12/sqrt(29)(10)]


I'm not sure where to go from here to simplify it down to a single ratio. Am I on the right track?
 
Mark, I have been going through this problem as in my notes and I'm not quite sure what I omitted. Could you expand on that? Or show the step I omitted?
 
Sure. You want to approximate f(x + ∆x, y + ∆y, z + ∆y), which is approximately equal to
f(x, y, z) + fx(x, y, z) ∆x + fy(x, y, z) ∆y + fz(x, y, z) ∆z

In this formula, x, y, and z are the values 3, 2, and 4, ∆x, ∆y, and ∆z are .2, .1, and .3 (it's silly to write them as 2/10, 1/10, and 3/10), and fx(x, y, z) is the partial of f, with respect to x, evaluated at x, y, z. Similar for the other two partials.

This estimate is the three-dimension counter part to linear approximations for functions of one variable, f(x). For such a function, f(x0 + ∆x) [itex]\approx[/itex] f(xx0) + f'(x0)∆x. Here x0 is the base x-value at which the function and its derivative are easy to evaluate. I used x0 here but not in what I showed for the function of your problem. There is no difference intended between x0 here and plain old x in the earlier bit I wrote.

Clear?
 

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