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The discussion revolves around the wiring and configuration of a 45kVA GE transformer to convert voltage from 250V to 208V for use with tile kilns. Participants explore technical aspects of transformer wiring, safety regulations, and potential modifications to achieve the desired voltage output.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks diagrams for wiring a transformer from 480V to 250V to 208V.
  • Another participant questions the application and background of the original poster, noting a potential confusion between AC and DC conversion.
  • A participant describes their specific application involving tile kilns and the need to reduce incoming voltage from 248V to 208V.
  • Concerns are raised about local building codes and the necessity of permits for electrical work.
  • Suggestions are made to consider rewiring the transformer as a three-phase autotransformer.
  • There is a reiteration of the participant's background in HVAC and electrical engineering, emphasizing their experience with wiring and diagnostics.
  • Further inquiries are made regarding NEC regulations and insurance considerations related to the electrical changes being made.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of agreement on the need for permits and adherence to local codes, while technical approaches to wiring the transformer remain contested. No consensus is reached on the specific wiring diagrams or methods to achieve the voltage conversion.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for clarity on the type of conversion (AC vs. DC) and the implications of local electrical codes, which remain unresolved. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the specific NEC regulations applicable to the installation.

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hooking up a 45kva general transformer to buck to 208v
I have a 45kva GE transformer in the pics and here. Its set up for 480 to 208, i need to wire it for 250v to 208v. Could someone please point me to the correct diagrams for this general type of transformer?

Thank you
 
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fastjer said:
Summary:: hooking up a 45kva general transformer to buck to 208v

I have a 45kva GE transformer in the pics and here. Its set up for 480 to 208, i need to wire it for 250v to 208v. Could someone please point me to the correct diagrams for this general type of transformer?

Thank you

Welcome to PF. :smile:

It looks like your images are no longer available. Can you use "Attach files" (lower left of window) or provide updated links?

Also, what is the application? What is your background?

Finally, it looks like from your post that you want to do an AC conversion to lower the working voltage of the system, but from your thread title, it sounds like you want to do a DC conversion? Please clarify. Thanks.
 
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So, I have tile kilns that run on 208v, but 248v comes into my business. To replace the elements for 208 is pretty pricy. I purchased this transformer pretty cheap, it works, but just need to figure out how to buck the voltage a little and still pull about 45 amps through. This one is set up for 480, so when I hook it up the the 3 phase at my building i get 56v to neutral, or about 112 across two of the output terminals.
Background: 15 years in hvac, degree in ee (a LONG time ago), been wiring small circuits and diagnosing general stuff for a long time
 
fastjer said:
So, I have tile kilns that run on 208v, but 248v comes into my business. To replace the elements for 208 is pretty pricy. I purchased this transformer pretty cheap, it works, but just need to figure out how to buck the voltage a little and still pull about 45 amps through. This one is set up for 480, so when I hook it up the the 3 phase at my building i get 56v to neutral, or about 112 across two of the output terminals.
Background: 15 years in hvac, degree in ee (a LONG time ago), been wiring small circuits and diagnosing general stuff for a long time
Have you pulled a permit for this electrical work yet? What are your local building codes regarding this upgrade work? Are you familiar with the NEC?
 
berkeman said:
Have you pulled a permit for this electrical work yet? What are your local building codes regarding this upgrade work? Are you familiar with the NEC?
hello berkeman, we are just seeing if it works. If so, i'll pull the permit, not a big deal.
 
fastjer said:
hello berkeman, we are just seeing if it works. If so, i'll pull the permit, not a big deal.
Great, thanks.

fastjer said:
So, I have tile kilns that run on 208v, but 248v comes into my business. To replace the elements for 208 is pretty pricy. I purchased this transformer pretty cheap, it works, but just need to figure out how to buck the voltage a little and still pull about 45 amps through. This one is set up for 480, so when I hook it up the the 3 phase at my building i get 56v to neutral, or about 112 across two of the output terminals.
Background: 15 years in hvac, degree in ee (a LONG time ago), been wiring small circuits and diagnosing general stuff for a long time

So can you say which NEC regulations apply to the new installation? What do you need to install in your business to support this new electrical feed? Also, have you talked with your business insurance agent about this electrical change to your business?
 

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