Looking for specific Physics fundamentals textbook

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This discussion centers on the search for undergraduate-level physics textbooks that effectively explain the fundamentals of light and electricity through both visual and mathematical reasoning. The original poster emphasizes the need for books that provide intuition by illustrating experimental setups alongside the mathematical derivations. Recommendations include advanced texts that require knowledge of 3D vector calculus, such as the book linked from Amazon. The conversation highlights a perceived gap in educational resources that adequately explain the 'why' behind physical phenomena, as opposed to merely describing their behavior.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic physics concepts, particularly light and electricity.
  • Familiarity with mathematical reasoning and derivations in physics.
  • Knowledge of 3D vector calculus for advanced texts.
  • Ability to interpret experimental setups and their mathematical implications.
NEXT STEPS
  • Research textbooks that focus on the historical development of physics theories, such as "The Feynman Lectures on Physics."
  • Explore resources on experimental physics that include visual aids and mathematical explanations.
  • Investigate online courses or lectures that cover the derivation of physical laws through experimental evidence.
  • Look into books that detail the scientific method and the process of developing theoretical models in physics.
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Undergraduate students in physics or related fields, educators seeking comprehensive teaching materials, and anyone interested in the foundational principles of light and electricity through a visual and mathematical lens.

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Hi, I'm interested in how light and how electricity works so I'm interested in a beginners (undergraduate level) physics book that has the following:
Giving intuition by showing each experimental setup - visually (with ppictures) and mathematically - which contributed to the understanding of light today. For instance some of the textbooks I red, either explain planks constant with no images or reasoning or they show an image and an equation but don't give the mathematical reasoning behind the image. I need good images to visualize the math, but i also need math to see the reasoning.

Basically I want an intuition and a 100% understanding of how and why we think light can be discribed the way it can, and how it works in practice.
 
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Basically I want an intuition and a 100% understanding of how and why we think light can be discribed the way it can, and how it works in practice.

I don't think you can find this. What you can find are books that will tell you how light behaves but they won't tell you why. I believe this went out of fashion with the caloric theory of heat and the aether theories of the 19th century. Since that time, science pretty much won't even try to tell you why. I saw a video of Richard Feynman explaining that he won't say why magnets (that is, magnetic dipoles) attract because he doesn't know himself (he knows how they attract).

As for books, apart from the "cookbook" books with names like "Physics", the books I found were all pretty advanced. If you could reach the point of knowing 3D vector calculus and the math in a book like https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393099369/?tag=pfamazon01-20, you would be pretty much spoilt for choice.

Books linked to:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393099369/?tag=pfamazon01-20

PS. What I said here was about light and electromagnetic radiation. Please say more about what you want to know about electricity and at what level.
 
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verty said:
I don't think you can find this. What you can find are books that will tell you how light behaves but they won't tell you why. I believe this went out of fashion with the caloric theory of heat and the aether theories of the 19th century. Since that time, science pretty much won't even try to tell you why. I saw a video of Richard Feynman explaining that he won't say why magnets (that is, magnetic dipoles) attract because he doesn't know himself (he knows how they attract).

As for books, apart from the "cookbook" books with names like "Physics", the books I found were all pretty advanced. If you could reach the point of knowing 3D vector calculus and the math in a book like https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393099369/?tag=pfamazon01-20, you would be pretty much spoilt for choice.

Books linked to:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393099369/?tag=pfamazon01-20

PS. What I said here was about light and electromagnetic radiation. Please say more about what you want to know about electricity and at what level.

I'm undergradiate but in biology, I'm just very curious about how physics works and why we defined Units in physics the way we do and how experiements throughtout history demonstrated how light and electricity works. I'f I'm given an equation, I wan't to know how it was discoverd, How it was derived (with images of the experiemntal setup and the derived math) and what conclusions were made from the discovery, If I have this, then I feel i have some form of intuition for it, and then I can relate to how it is used today in Various scientific mesering instruments.

So far I'm thinking about buying this book as a start:https://www.amazon.com/dp/0387987568/?tag=pfamazon01-20
I hope it describes all the experimental setup throughout history. I'm not that good at understanding or visualizing math without images, but with images it makes a lot of sense to me.
 
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@christian0710 did you find the book you were looking for? I am also interested in such a book where it shows exactly what the scientist did to go from observation of phenomena, process of experiment, mathematical modelling and constructing theoretical model. This process is very mysterious to me, especially the part where a mathematical model/theory is developed from scratch; how much knowledge do they already know and how much is assumed/theorized in their model. I haven't seen it presented completely in a textbook and I find it would be so helpful. If you find such a book please share with me the name of it. Thanks.
 
kay bei said:
@christian0710 did you find the book you were looking for? I am also interested in such a book where it shows exactly what the scientist did to go from observation of phenomena, process of experiment, mathematical modelling and constructing theoretical model. This process is very mysterious to me, especially the part where a mathematical model/theory is developed from scratch; how much knowledge do they already know and how much is assumed/theorized in their model. I haven't seen it presented completely in a textbook and I find it would be so helpful. If you find such a book please share with me the name of it. Thanks.
This thread is 8 years old, so the Original Poster is not very likely to answer you. Please keep this discussion in your existing thread:

https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...ok-which-shows-how-to-develop-theory.1014481/
 

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