Lorentz Force Part 2: Proving v.E = 0, E.B = 0, v ≥ E/B

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The discussion focuses on proving three key relationships involving a charged particle moving with constant velocity in uniform electric and magnetic fields. It emphasizes that the constant velocity implies that the net force acting on the particle is zero, leading to the conclusion that the velocity vector is perpendicular to the electric field vector, thus proving v.E = 0. Additionally, it discusses that the magnetic force is always perpendicular to the velocity, which supports the proof that E.B = 0. The condition v ≥ E/B is derived by analyzing the magnitudes of the forces involved. The topic is considered introductory, typically covered in high school or early college physics courses.
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Homework Statement



The motion of a charged particle P, observed in an inertial frame S. It is found that P moves with constant velocity v through a region of space where there is a uniform electric field E and a uniform magnetic field B. The speed v = |v|and the field magnitudes E = |E| and B = |B| are all non-vanishing.

Show that v.E =0.

Show that E.B =0.

Show that v ≥ E/B.


dont know how to start this.Need help.
 
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imy786 said:

Homework Statement



The motion of a charged particle P, observed in an inertial frame S. It is found that P moves with constant velocity v through a region of space where there is a uniform electric field E and a uniform magnetic field B. The speed v = |v|and the field magnitudes E = |E| and B = |B| are all non-vanishing.

Show that v.E =0.

Show that E.B =0.

Show that v ≥ E/B.


dont know how to start this.Need help.

As someone told you in the other thread, the first thing to realize is what it means to say that the velocity is constant. What does it imply for the electric and magnetice force?

Then, to answer the first two questions, it is possible to either prove the answers using words only, by talking aboutthe direction of the forces and so on (using the fact that the magnetic force is always perpendicular to the velocity of the charge). Or they can be answered using algebra only and using the obvious identity {\vec A} \cdot ({\vec A} \times {\vec B}) = 0 for any two vectors A and B.
For the third question, just write the condition on the magnitudes of the forces and isolate v. The answer will contain a sin theta and since theta may vary from 0 to 180 degrees, you will find that v \leq E/B as stated.

Btw, this should have been posted in the introductory physics forum, probably.

Regards
 
nrged- thanks for the advice,

so why do you think is introductory level.

What level do you think this is? college/ high school/under/ grad/phd?
 
imy786 said:
nrged- thanks for the advice,

so why do you think is introductory level.

What level do you think this is? college/ high school/under/ grad/phd?
This material is usually covered in high school physics and freshman year of college. Read some of the other advanced level threads for comparison.
 
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