The discussion centers on whether Lorentz transformations (LT) are empirical laws and if they can be empirically tested. It is noted that LT originated from an erroneous assumption about object contraction at high velocities but were later validated through Einstein's formulation based on relative motion. The transformations have been confirmed through a century of experimental verification, suggesting they are indeed empirical. However, there is debate about their theoretical nature, as they were established before their application in physics. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the complex relationship between theory and empirical testing in the context of Lorentz transformations.