Lorentz Transforms + Relativity of Simultaneity

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The discussion centers on the application of Lorentz transforms and the relativity of simultaneity in special relativity. Person A describes a scenario involving two observers, one stationary and one moving at 0.5c, observing a series of firecrackers. The calculations presented involve Lorentz contraction and time dilation, specifically using the Lorentz factor (gamma) to analyze the perceived timing and spacing of events. The importance of incorporating the time transformation equation, γ(t - vx/c²), is emphasized to fully understand the relativity of simultaneity.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Lorentz transforms in special relativity
  • Familiarity with the concept of simultaneity in different reference frames
  • Knowledge of the Lorentz factor (gamma) and its calculation
  • Basic principles of time dilation and length contraction
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  • Study the derivation and application of the Lorentz transformation equations
  • Explore examples of simultaneity in different inertial frames using firecracker scenarios
  • Learn about the implications of time dilation and length contraction in practical physics problems
  • Investigate advanced topics in special relativity, such as Minkowski diagrams
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Students of physics, particularly those studying special relativity, educators teaching relativity concepts, and anyone interested in the implications of Lorentz transforms and simultaneity in different reference frames.

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Hi,

I'm studying special relativity this semester and stumbled onto a couple of problems. These have nothing to do with my homework or anything, they're just a couple of things I thought up. Since I have little contact with my teacher (it's an online course), it'd probably be a good idea to put them here. I'm sorry if this is the wrong forum, but again this isn't homework but questions on the topic.

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Person A sets up, in the lab frame, a string of collinear firecrackers evenly spaced one meter apart. Person B is in the rocket frame, traveling parallel to the firecrackers at speed .5*c. A sets off the firecrackers so they all go off the same time, her frame. To B, the distances every two consecutive firecrackers are lorentz contracted to 1*sqrt(1 - .5^2) .866 meters. So after the first flash of light reaches him, the next one should arrive after 1/(1 - .5) 1.73 seconds. Is this correct? If not, what did I accidentally add or leave out? Does this demonstrate the relativity of simultaneity?

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We'll define A to be gamma. We have a lab frame (with coordinates x
and t), and a rocket frame (with x' and t'). In the lab frame, there
are two points, x1 and x2. The distance between them is dx. In the
rocket frame, the two points are at locations A(x1 - vt) and A(x2 -
vt). Therefore, in the rocket frame dx' is A*dx.

Now, we place a bar between those two points of length dx. It Lorentz
contracts to length dx/A as observed in rocket frame. So the space
increased to A*dx and length of the bar in that space decreased to
1/A * dx. Is this all correct, or am I missing something here?

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Thanks!

Dakar
 
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Dakar said:
Person A sets up, in the lab frame, a string of collinear firecrackers evenly spaced one meter apart. Person B is in the rocket frame, traveling parallel to the firecrackers at speed .5*c. A sets off the firecrackers so they all go off the same time, her frame. To B, the distances every two consecutive firecrackers are lorentz contracted to 1*sqrt(1 - .5^2) .866 meters. So after the first flash of light reaches him, the next one should arrive after 1/(1 - .5) 1.73 seconds. Is this correct? If not, what did I accidentally add or leave out? Does this demonstrate the relativity of simultaneity?

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Well, you have to add the relativity of simultaneity, i.e. the time transformation [tex]\gamma(t-vx/c^2)[/tex].

For example, we have 2 firecrackers starting simultaneously at the coordinates x1=0, t1=0 and x2=1m, t2=0.

What are the coordinates (both space and time) of those two events in the rocketframe?

Regards,
 

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