Lorentz velocity transformation problem

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An observer on Earth sees spacecraft A moving at 0.50c and spacecraft B at 0.80c. The problem involves calculating the speed of spacecraft A as measured by an observer in spacecraft B using the Lorentz velocity transformation formula. The calculations yield u' = 0.5c, suggesting that spacecraft A is moving away from B at that speed. However, there is confusion regarding the signs used in the calculations, with one source indicating the answer as -0.5c. The discussion highlights the importance of correctly interpreting the reference frames and the signs in relativistic velocity transformations.
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An observer on Earth observes two spacecraft moving
in the same direction toward the Earth. Spacecraft A appears
to have a speed of 0.50c, and spacecraft B appears
to have a speed of 0.80c. What is the speed of spacecraft
A measured by an observer in spacecraft B?So if S is the reference frame of the Earth, S' is the reference frame of plane B, v is the velocity with which S' approaches S (according to S), u is the velocity with which plane A approaches Earth (according to Earth) and u' is the velocity with which plane A approaches plane B (according to B), then:

v = -0.8c
u = -0.5c

u' = (u-v) / 1-(uv/c2)) = 0.5c

I am interpreting this as meaning that according to plane B, plane A is actually moving away from B at 0.5c. My book, however, has the answer as -0.5c, implying the opposite, i think?...is the book wrong or are my signs wrong? It makes sense to me making v and u negative because the formula for the velocity transformation was derived assuming that S' and the event (plane A here) are moving away from S, not towards...

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Hi Aziza! :smile:

I think you're over-thinking this …
Aziza said:
An observer on Earth observes two spacecraft moving
in the same direction toward the Earth. Spacecraft A appears
to have a speed of 0.50c, and spacecraft B appears
to have a speed of 0.80c. What is the speed of spacecraft
A measured by an observer in spacecraft B?

… if we ignore relativity, and choose 50mph and 80mph instead,

then obviously B is going faster than A, so A's speed measured by B will be negative :wink:

(of course, this is a non-standard usage of "speed" :redface: … the standard usage is as the magnitude of velocity, so that it's always non-negative)
 
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